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https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/joriz/episodes/2022-05-04T08_52_31-07_00

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[Joe Rizoli wrote, edited]:
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This is a keeper….This is a continuation of an interview with Holocaust Revisionist John de Nugent,
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….where we talk about the foundations of Holocaust revisionism, discussing honestly big past players in the movement such as Thies Kristofferson [a German botanist who actually worked at Auschwitz, and, outraged at the gas chamber lies, in the 1970s wrote “The Auschwitz Lie”];
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Thies with his wife, out for a stroll in the supposed “death camp” — where, according to Elie Wiesel, it smelled constantly of roasting human flesh…

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— former Waffen-SS,  author and newsletterman Hans Schmidt;
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— IHR director and Scientology ally Mark Weber;
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— heroic Canadian-German Ernst Zündel;
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the resolute Zündel at his 1985 trial for “false news” in Toronto, wearing his trademark construction helmet and next to his lawyer, the late Doug Christie, at a press conference
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—  canceled historian David Irving….
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and later, in a coming segment, we will discuss David Duke, David Cole…
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A few  comments on Bitchute:

  • rb_rzr

    I remember the jewess Lipstadt saying, “the IHR hides under their academic credentials” to me that sounded like she and her fellow holocaust profiteers were terrified of the IHR organization. It’s no wonder the jews had to get their grubby hands on it and Webber was the perfect guy to shut down all holocaust revisionism in the scholarly academic sense. What a shame….

     

  • rb_rzr

    Compelling talk, thanx guys. Interesting about Weber. Jew money does warp the thinking mind. If Weber didn’t sell out, the IHR could have been the right tool to take apart the Holocaust myth in an academic way. Irving is understandable, having a narcissistic personality. I hope John comes back to talk about other early revisionists.

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    You

    Thanks, and I will!

    • Hadding

      I had a lot of contact with Helen Irene Zundel, the wife who only lasted a year or so. She did one good thing: she compiled information about Antifa that could be used to inform police and put them on guard. In general I had not a very good impression of her, because of her demeanor. She always seemed half-dead, a bit like a female version of Lurch. I heard later that she was an alcoholic. I believe that she was EZ’s Plan A for migrating to the USA, because she was a US citizen and he had already said at his 1995 Christmas Party that circumstances were unfavorably changing in Toronto.

      Marriage to Ingrid Rimland was Plan B. Zundel’s deportation from the USA was consequent upon failing to attend an immigration hearing of which he had received no notice.

      Hadding

      The evidence for Zundel’s grandfather having been a Jew is non-existent. You don’t have to be a Jew to be in a trade union.

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        John de Nugent

        I disagree that indicators are non-existent. The Wiki article goes into this, and he did not deny he might be part-jewish. As a famous book on German jews pointed out, there were 600K pure jews in 1933 and two MILLION part-jews.
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        Also Ernst somewhat looked jewish (nose, stocky build and short height) and he acted it too but in a good sense of being gifted at money and at PR, too.
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        I grew up as a WASP among jews, btw. I speak from much experience.
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        In any case, I was not bashing Ernst in saying this.

    • mayamoi2

      Very GOOD

    • Hadding

      Wernher von Braun and his team were a big cause of pro-German sentiment in the USA. Braun had hosted episodes of the Wonderful World of Disney in the 1950s.

      Incidentally, I think that the big anonymous cash donation that Zundel received during his trials was from the rocket team. They had raised money for Arthur Rudolph that ended up not being used. So, I think that they just hung onto it until Zundel needed it a few years later. https://codoh.com/library/document/german-rocket-scientists-not-getting-their-due/en/ [show less]

       

      • You

        Interesting theory — and it would not surprise me at all, based on what Hans Schmidt told me, who knew Arthur Rudolph.

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    • x$ù%*

      Jim, please invite John de Nugent regularly !
      He’s a fantastic, pro-white living encyclopedia !!
      Last but not least, let him talk. Stop interrupting him all the time. His words are gold !!!

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    Hadding

    I do not believe that Jean Edison Farrell “just wanted Willis to have the money.” I do believe however that this is what Carto told John de Nugent. She had left the money to IHR’s parent organization, the Legion for the Survival of Freedom, and Carto had diverted the funds. It was not a miscarriage when the court ruled in IHR’s favor.

John de Nugent
Believe me, Jean was an admirer of WILLIS. Women are person-oriented as much as ideological.

HaddingYou
You knew her?

John de Nugenht to Hadding
Michael Collins Piper did, my colleague for years.
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Btw, the Legion for the Survival of Freedom, a 501(c)(3) public-benefit organization, was controlled by Elizabeth Carto, the only staffer, and in fact it actually paid me for my estate-planning work 2005-08.
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Anyone who donated to it knew it was for Willis’ projects. [show less]

Hadding to John de Nugent
Bah. And you talked to Piper about it when? Before or after he became completely disillusioned with the Cartos? He had been Carto’s point man against IHR, so you were talking to the wrong guy if you wanted unbiased information. Carto lost that case simply because the facts were not on his side.

John de Nugent to Hadding
Umm, you do understand that you are supporting 1) the totally jew-run US legal and court system (which f—ed Donald Trump, Julian Assange, the January 6ers, and dozens of other well-meaning patriots, and which railroaded Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf and so many others), and you are backing 2) the self-serving interpretation of the overt traitor and Scientology ally Mark Weber against the 100% revisionist Willis Carto, who, for all his flaws in his younger years, never wavered that the Holocaust is a fraud, and also that the white race deserves to survive and not be genocided by the jews.
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And as for Mike Piper, whom I knew personally for decades, he never became disillusioned with the Cartos over their views and goals, just over how they treated people…. and, as I stated, the Cartos did make many enemies for their retro management style.
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Are you not the Hadding Scott who was the author of the recent article exposing the semi-revisionists?
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Then, if so, why on this dark earth are you supporting the semi-revisionist Weber — whom you just denounced? Or are you, which would be rather unlikely, a different “Hadding”?
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I knew Weber, Marcellus, Raven, O’Keefe, both Cartos, Mike Piper, and so many others. You are talking to someone who actually knew all these people, and both their flaws and their good points.
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And, btw, Carto was on the verge of sending me to Geneva, Switzerland for the legal proceedings on the Farrell estate, since I am fluent in French. I resigned from the Carto organization in 1993 because Willis had angered me, and did not resume work for him until 2005. I am not blind to his human failings.

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7 Comments

  1. Luminous Figures: John and Margi, Jim and Joe Rizoli, Diane King, Germar Rudolf, John Friend et al.
    May 4, 2022 at 2:57 pm

    Luminous Figures: John and Margi, Jim and Joe Rizoli, Diane King, Germar Rudolf, John Friend et al.

    Dear John de Nugent,

    thank you for your interviews with Jim, Joe and Diane.[1] You, the three and Germar, John Friend[2] et al. are luminous figures. I have not heard this and the last of your interviews with Jim, but I have been following the Rizoli brothers and Diane for a great many years.

    Jim is a kindred spirit to you, John: Committed to truth, spirituality, humorous, direct speech and energetic, uncompromising intransigence, as one commentator once described Jim: Jim is “relentlessly”, unyielding in his fight for truth and justice.

    Kind regards

    Beobachter

    [1] https://worldtruthvideos.website/@JimRizoli
    [2] https://therealistreport.com/

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    In German:

    Lichtgestalten: John und Margi, Jim und Joe Rizoli, Diane King, Germar Rudolf, John Friend u.a.

    Sehr geehrter John de Nugent,

    danke für Ihre Interviews bei Jim, Joe und Diane.[1] Sie, die drei und Germar, John Friend[2] u.a. sind Lichtgestalten. Ich habe dieses und die letzten Ihrer Interviews mit Jim noch nicht gehört, aber ich verfolge die Rizoli-Brüder und Diane seit sehr vielen Jahren.

    Jim ist wesensverwandt mit Ihnen, John: Der Wahrheit verpflichtet, Spiritualität, humorvoll, direkte (An)Sprache und energische, kompromißlose Unnachgiebigkeit, wie mal ein Kommentator Jim beschrieb: Jim ist “relentlessly”, unnachgiebig in seinem Kampf für Wahrheit und Gerechtigkeit.

    Herzliche Grüße

    Beobachter

    [1] https://worldtruthvideos.website/@JimRizoli
    [2] https://therealistreport.com/

  2. Michael Hudson’s book, “And forgive them their debts,” convicts modern Christianity as having been translated incorrectly, and hence Jesus’ message was muddled and morphed.
    https://michael-hudson.com/2018/08/and-forgive-them-their-debts/

    In …and forgive them their debts, renowned professor of economics, Michael Hudson – and one of the few who could see the 2008 financial crisis coming – takes us on an epic journey through the economies of ancient civilizations. For the past 40 years in conjunction with the Harvard Peabody Museum, he and his colleagues have documented the archeological record and history of debt, and how societies have dealt with (or failed to deal with) the proliferation of debts that cannot be paid. In the pages of …and forgive them their debts, readers will discover shocking historical truths about how debt played a central role in shaping ancient societies.

    Perhaps most striking of all is that – in a nearly complete consensus of Assyriologists & biblical scholars – the Bible is preoccupied with debt, not sin.

    After Hillel’s Prozbul clause, Judaism went off the rails, and a “sinful” creditor class emerged, the Pharisees. The Prozbul overturned the Jubilee and periodic debt releases encoded in the Bible. Jesus started his mission on the Jubilee year.

    In other words, Judeo Christianity should be fairly easy (intellectually) to over-turn based on new truths being revealed by the Harvard group. It would require young Christians to be convicted that there is something wrong with modern Christianity, that it morphed beyond its original meaning. Sex isn’t sin, but putting people into debt bondage so they will turn tricks for your household, is sin.

    Young Christians would also have to be convicted that Judaism went off the rails after Hillel, with a predatory creditor class having taken over. Modern Jews will never believe that they are the bad guys, operating in opposition to pre-Hillel Torah law, so it is doubtful they can be reached.

    Ancient Greek thought on Hubris. There is no loss of wants with money. It is a sickness that has stricken many Jews and Judeo Christians :
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/04/michael-hudson-plato-aristophanes-and-aristotle-on-money-lust-399-380-bc.html

    Delphi’s warning that lust for monetary silver (philarguria) was the only thing that could destroy Sparta was echoed by Plato, Socrates and other philosophers accusing wealth addiction of leading to greedy and hubristic behavior that impoverished society at large. Creditors were singled out for reducing debtors to bondage and taking their land.

      • The money lender race wants to indebt the world. Their debt instruments, which they manufacture, are held by the money lender creditor class, so they become creditors and the world becomes their debt slaves. This is how they skim off the wealth of nations.

        Jesus actually came to stop their predations, and even whipped the money changers. Changing the definition of sin from debt, to something more nebulous, like sex is the creditor class fighting back. That way they can hide in plain sight.

        The first 300 years of Christ, up until Constantine’s council of Nicea, also had reincarnation.

        The logos, to become Christ like, is for a human to evolve in repeated incarnations, to then perfect himself.

        The “arien” controversy (not aryan) was a fight where the Trinitarians won, and reincarnation was erased from Christian doctrine. I would consider this one of the first Judeo Christian insertions, among many.

  3. I listened to the whole two hours of this podcast. I thought it was very good.

    Something that wasn’t discussed was the new Disinformation Agency that Biden has established, and what this will mean for those of us who deny that the Holocause was a real event.

    • Thanks for your encouraging praise.
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      At this point I kind of doubt this Disinfo Agency will get off the ground. There has been a lot of outrage over it, and mockery of the jewess or whoever is supposed to ruin it. And since when can the executive branch just set up an agency without congressional authorization?

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