The “Disputation of Paris” — for the first time, the Talmud’s true horrors were revealed to shocked Christians, but the equally disgusting “Old Testament” still remained off limits

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One of the early printed Talmuds.

[The site was down about five hours today. The webmaster finally had me contact the webhost, who fixed it. This has been going on since 2009.]

Martin Luther learned Hebrew from a rabbi in order to translate the Old Testament into Germans,but was so bothered by certain passages that he cleaned things up. In this he was following in the footsteps of the Roman Christians who first translated the Old Testament into Latin, called the Septuagint. They too deliberately cleaned up some nasty, hyper-jewy content.

But when Luther started reading the Talmud, that REALLY bowled him over with disgust.

In another life, I and Dietrich Eckart talked about Luther and how, by reading the original Hebrew, he realized that ALL the jewish scriptures were loathsome, but he dared not attack the Old Testament. That would have been “a bridge too far.” People got burned at the stake for denying the “truth” of the Bible, and Protestants also burned “heretics” !

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*** Wiki on Michael Servetus

Michael Servetus (/sərˈviːtəs/;[1] Spanish: Miguel Serveto; French: Michel Servet; also known as Miguel Servet, Miguel de Villanueva, Revés, or Michel de Villeneuve; 29 September 1509 or 1511 – 27 October 1553) was a Spanish theologian, physician, cartographer, and Renaissance humanist. He was the first European to correctly describe the function of pulmonary circulation, as discussed in Christianismi Restitutio (1553). He was a polymath versed in many sciences: mathematics, astronomy and meteorology, geography, human anatomy, medicine and pharmacology, as well as jurisprudence, translation, poetry, and the scholarly study of the Bible in its original languages.

He is renowned in the history of several of these fields, particularly medicine. His work on the circulation of blood and his observations on pulmonary circulation were particularly important. He participated in the Protestant Reformation, and later rejected the Trinity doctrine [that Jesus was God, and not just His son] and mainstream Catholic Christology.

In 1553 Michael Servetus published another religious work with further anti-trinitarian views entitled Christianismi Restitutio (The Restoration of Christianity), a work that sharply rejected the idea of predestination as the idea that God condemned souls to Hell regardless of worth or merit.

At his trial, Servetus was condemned on two counts for spreading and preaching Nontrinitarianism, [] and anti-paedobaptism (anti-infant baptism).[33] Of paedobaptism Servetus had said, “It is an invention of the devil, an infernal falsity for the destruction of all Christianity.”[34]

*** JdN: As I have blogged, if you were against the baptizing of babies back in the 1500s and 1600s, you really could be BURNED AT THE STAKE, even by other Protestants!

My ancestor via both my parents, Thomas Angell, gave land in the mid-1600s from his apple orchard in Providence, Rhode Island for an Anabaptist/”Baptist” church.

Anabaptizein in Greek meant to “baptize again,” meaning that because infant baptism, the first one, did not count for them, the second baptism — as an adult, and in a river, fully immersed in the water — being “baptized again” — was  considered valid.

First Baptist Church of Providence, Rhode Island

 

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After being condemned by Catholic authorities in France, he fled to Calvinist [Protestant!] Geneva where he was denounced by John Calvin himself and burned at the stake for heresy by order of the city’s governing council.

 

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Dietrich Eckart was very influenced by the great French aristocratic writer, Roger Gougenot des Mousseaux (1805-76), who believed, drumroll, that the Jews, this extraordinary people who have no rivals on this planet in terms of cunning and malevolence,  were literally the product of, yes, demonic entities  materializing thousands of years ago to mate with earth women, creating a human-demon hybrid.

As Wikipedia says:

Henri-Roger Gougenot des Mousseaux (1805 – 1876) was a French writer and journalist. He was the author of Le Juif, le judaïsme et la judaïsation des peuples chrétiens (The Jew, Judaism and the Judaization of Christian peoples, 1869). The work is said to have received the approval of Pope Pius IX. It was later translated into German (ca. 1920) by Alfred Rosenberg.

Eckart, who worked very closely in Munich with both Alfred Rosenberg and Adolf Hitler, undoubtedly read Rosenberg’s translation of this work into German.

Eckart says that committed Jews (and not all jews are committed) basically have no soul at all, that they are mere instruments without conscience of a demonic power. This would dovetail with my own views of the Jews as a race of psychopaths, born criminals who live to lie, steal, cheat, betray, torture, rape and murder and enjoy doing so.

Martin Luther, like Eckart centuries later, saw that not all jews were fanatics.  So he said: “Christian, know that you have no more dangerous enemy than a jew who is committed to judaism. [Luther said in German, “ein Jude, der wirklich Jude sein will,” that is, a jew who really wants to be a jew.]

Here are three huge delusions which average Christians have about jews:

1) that their only holy book is the Old Testament (nope, the Talmud is FAR more important to them);

2) that Judaism teaches clean moral living like all the other major religions; actually no, it teaches lying, stealing, enslaving goyim with usury; murder; and genocide

3) that Jews see Jesus as a great jewish teacher who was “mistaken” about being the Messiah; (actually, while conceding His miracles, the Talmud rabbis denounce him as a wicked blasphemer who deserved to die and then roast in hell)

 

….ISRAELI TV MOCKS JESUS AS A WHINEY MONKEY AND THEN A SLUTTY JEWISH GIRL NAILS HIM TO THE CROSS

This was from a major comedy show on Israeli TV in the ’00s. I have shown this to all sorts of Whites, both Christians and non-Christians/agnostic, etc.  ALL of them are shocked. Jesus is viewed by 90% of normal people as a man who deeply cared about others, courageously denounced wickedness, and preached love and humility.

Jesus came upon his disciples arguing about who was His top follower. He silently began washing their feet, something soothing and refreshing which a slave or servant would be ordered to do for an honored guest. Humility and service were Jesus’ teaching, not ego.

And His whipping and then crucifixion are viewed by people all over the world as a cruel and atrocious crime.

 

So this video SHOCKS most Aryans, including non-Christians.  They start to see the jews as obsessed with hatred and pathologically spiteful over religious arguments from 2,000 years ago. “Give it a rest, man…”

….Humor

Now THIS is why Americans are not the ideal people to run a superpower 😉

…..Disputation of Paris

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Disputation of Paris

An early printing of the Talmud (Ta’anit 9b); with commentary by Rashi.
English name Trial of the Talmud
Date 12 June 1240
Location Court of the reigning king of France, Louis IX
Type Disputation
Theme Four rabbis defended the Talmud against Donin’s accusations
Outcome Twenty-four carriage loads of Jewish religious manuscripts were set on fire in the streets of Paris

 

The Disputation of Paris (Hebrewמשפט פריזromanizedMishpat ParizFrenchdisputation de Paris), also known as the Trial of the Talmud (French: procès du Talmud), took place in 1240 at the court of King Louis IX of France.

 

It followed the work of Nicholas Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity who translated the Talmud and pressed 35 charges against it to Pope Gregory IX by quoting a series of blasphemous passages about JesusMary, or Christianity.[1] Four rabbis defended the Talmud against Donin’s accusations.

Background[edit]

As part of its evangelistic efforts, the Catholic Church sought to convert the Jews through debate. Western Christianity in the 13th century was developing its intellectual acumen and had assimilated the challenges of Aristotle through the works of Thomas Aquinas. In order to flex its intellectual muscle, the Church sought to engage the Jews in debate, hoping that the Jews would see what it considered the intellectual superiority of Christianity.[2]

Paul Johnson cites a significant difference between the Jewish and Christian sides of the debate. Christianity had developed a detailed theological system; the teachings were clear and therefore vulnerable to attack. Judaism had a relative absence of dogmatic theology; it did have many negative dogmas to combat idolatry but did not have a developed positive theology. “The Jews had a way of concentrating on life and pushing death—and its dogmas—into the background.”[3]

Disputants[edit]

The debate started on 12 June 1240.[4][5] Nicholas Donin, a member of the Franciscan Order and a Jewish convert to Christianity, represented the Christian side. He had translated statements by Talmudic sages and pressed 35 charges against the Talmud as a whole to Pope Gregory IX by quoting a series of allegedly blasphemous passages about Christianity. He also selected what he said were injunctions of Talmudic sages permitting Jews to kill non-Jews, to deceive Christians, and to break promises made to them without scruples.[6][1] The other Christian members of the tribunal were queen Blanche of Castile, archbishop Gauthier Le Cornu [fr] of Sens,[7] bishop Guillaume d’Auvergne of Paris, inquisitor Henri de Cologne and the chancellor of the University of Paris, Eudes de Châteauroux [fr].

The Catholic Church had shown little interest in the Talmud until Donin presented his translation to Gregory IX. The Pope was surprised that the Jews relied on texts other than the Torah, and that those other texts contained alleged blasphemies against Christianity. This lack of interest also characterized the French monarchy which chiefly considered the Jews as a potential source of income before 1230.[8]

Rabbis Yechiel of Paris,[9] Moses of CoucyJudah of Melun, and Samuel ben Solomon of Château-Thierry—four of the most distinguished rabbis of France—represented the Jewish side of the debate.[10]

Trial[edit]

The terms of the disputation demanded that the four rabbis defend the Talmud against Donin’s accusations that it contained blasphemies against the Christian religion, attacks on Christians themselves, blasphemies against God, and obscene folklore. The attacks on Christianity were from passages referring to Jesus and Mary. There is a passage, for example, of someone named Yeshu who was sent to hell to be boiled in excrement for eternity. The Jews denied [lying] that this is the Jesus of the New Testament, stating “not every Louis born in France is king.”[11]

Among the obscene folklore is a story that Adam copulated with each of the animals before finding Eve. Noah, according to the Talmudic legends, was castrated by his son Ham.[12] It was common for Christians to equate the religion of the Jews with the Mosaic faith of the Old Testament, so the Church was surprised to realize that the Jews had developed an authoritative Talmud to complement their understanding of the Bible.[citation needed]

Twentieth-century Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby alleges that the purpose of the Paris disputation was to rid the Jews of their “belief in the Talmud”, in order that they might return to Old Testament Abrahamism and eventually embrace Christianity.[13]

He says that the hostility of the Church during this disputation had less to do with the Church’s attitude and more to do with Nicholas Donin. Donin’s argumentation exploited controversies that were debated within Judaism at the time, according to Maccoby.[14] Maccoby also suggests that the disputation may have been motivated by Donin’s previous affiliations with the Karaite Jews, and that his motivations for joining the Church involved his desire to attack rabbinic tradition.[15]

Outcome[edit]

The Disputation set in place a train of events which culminated in a burning of a great number of Jewish holy texts, on 17 June 1242.[16] “One estimate is that the 24 wagonloads included up to 10,000 volumes of Hebrew manuscripts, a startling number when one considers that the printing press did not yet exist, so that all copies of a work had to be written out by hand.”[16] The burning of the texts was apparently witnessed by the Maharam of Rothenburg, who wrote about the incident.[16]

Donin’s translation of statements taken from the Talmud into French changed the Christian perception about Jews. Christians had viewed the Jews as the followers of the Old Testament who honored the Law of Moses and the prophets, but the alleged blasphemies included among the Talmudic texts indicated that Jewish understandings of the Old Testament differed from the Christian understanding.[17]

Louis IX stated that only skilled clerics could conduct a disputation with Jews, but that laymen should plunge a sword into those who speak ill of Christ.[18][19]

Legacy[edit]

A prominent religious-Zionist rabbi, Shlomo Aviner, suggested that the Notre-Dame fire [of 2019]  may have been divine retribution for the burning of the Talmud in 1242.[20][21]

 

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…..Michael Hoffman’s detailed, authoritative dissection of the wicked Talmud in “Judaism Discovered”

This thousand-page book is the ultimate exposé of Talmud filth.

Most of  all, it explains to jew-revering, Bible-adoring Christians that the “Old Testament” which they think is so holy (BECAUSE THEY NEVER READ IT) has not been the main book defining the Jewish religion for two thousand years! No, it is instead the even more horrific Talmud, written between AD 100 and 500.

Judaism-Discovered-Michael-Hoffman

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……But the “Old Testament” and its god Yahweh were already bad enough! Down with the demonic Yahweh!

 

The Jews’ god is clearly no God of love: “Worship me, Jews, and kill the old gentile women. Your reward is this — you can make sex slaves for yourselves of all cute young shiksas.

The women of the Chosen People — no wonder jewish men lusted after our Aryan women… Deep down, the jews know they are a demonic people and that their god is Satan.

 

Early Christian bishop Marcion, tragically ruled a heretic, saw that Yahweh and Jesus’s God were literally two different beings.

The God of Jesus was no wimp, but neither was he a psychopath like Yahweh.

The coming faith will make clear that spirituality includes a balance between war and peace, yin and yang, men and women, Mars and Venus, liberals and conservatives, left and right, forgiveness and the firing squad: whatever the situation calls for.

Thought-provoking meme:

A Catholic and WN wrote me on VK:

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With respect, may the Day of Wrath come, and not as the “Christian-Zionists” expect, but as the Lord God demands, for their perfidy and loathsomeness, the scum who calumniate Christ and His Holy Mother in the despicable Talmud.

I heartily agree [with you, John] that the “god of Judaism” is not the Father of the Most Holy Trinity, i.e. the Christian God. The perfidious rabbis worship Satan and not the True God.

This is a rendition of the famous 13th-century Latin, Roman-Catholic hymn, “Dies Irae” (or, “Day of Wrath,” about the Second Coming of Christ and Judgment Day).

For those who may want a quick breakdown of the song and history:

The first seven versus are meant to waken sinners from spiritual lethargy and realize that life is fleeting. The other verses are all meant for one to find four things:

— forgiveness from God,

— mercy from God,

— strength from God, and

–peace from God.

Invasions fo Christendom (Europe) from Mohammedans (common term today is Muslim), wars on fellow Christians, the Black Plague, famine, civil unrest, and other hardships were common during this time.

BUT do not forget the importance of expressing all of the fear, uncertainty, doubt, grief, and releasing it to God. That is what this music is doing. Music such as this was made to convey depth of feeling to convert the sinful, turn them to the mercy of God, draw strength from the Church’s sacraments which God gave to us, and then send them back into the world to face all of these uncertainties with a peaceful resolution to rely on God, come what may.

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I replied:

Thanks for this comment. The brilliant book “From Yahweh to Zion” by Sorbonne graduate Laurent Guyénot exposes — with pertinent quotes from the Old Testament — how Yahweh, like Zeus among the Ancient Hellenes, is not at all a loving, just creator god, or a “Heavenly Father.”

(This term was a neologism introduced by Jesus, a truly radical religious reformer, or, more accurately, a genuine religious revolutionary.) Yahweh, instead, is a lower, selfish, demonic entity.

Genesis 3:5 Note that Yahweh is very much against this happening:

“Your eyes [speaking to Adam and Eve] will be opened and you will be like [us] gods, knowing good from evil.’”
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This tyrannical desire to keep people down, poor, fearful and ignorant, reminds me of Joseph Stalin!
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Or, returning to the religious context, Zeus punished Prometheus horribly for giving fire, light, warmth and knowledge to wretched humanity. An eagle comes every three days and eats from his liver, since he is chained to a boulder.

 

 

In Plato’s dialogues, Socrates and his listeners agree that the Greek gods are unworthy of admiration and have done appalling things.

All over the ancient world, actually, intelligent white men and women were lookin for a more enlightened religion as a result. Late Judaism, Christianity, and other religions then dove into this void, with late Judaism cynically exploiting this thirst for true enlightenment. Their god was certainly not what Gentiles needed, but a god even worse than their own!

Jesus to the Pharisees, who later wrote the Talmud:

Matthew 23:15

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert [to Judaism], and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as yourselves!”

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Then we read this in Genesis: (3:8-10)
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“”8. The man and his wife heard the sound of Yahweh God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from Yahweh God among the trees of the garden. 9. But Yahweh God called to the man. ‘Where are you?‘ he asked.

10. ‘I heard the sound of you in the garden,’ he replied. ‘I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.’”
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This is clearly not the Creator of the universe (a “multiverse,” actually, with many dimensions, or as Jesus said, “many mansions”), but an actual being 1) physically walking along, making moving noises with his feet; 2) doing so when it is cool out (in ancient Iraq, location of Eden), and 3) and asking the dude, Adam, where he is.

LOL! Some “Creator-of-the-Universe” this god is!

“Yo! Adam! Where you at?”

And now verse 3:22:

“Then Yahweh God said, ‘Now that the man has become like one of us [“us”? as in plural? What happened to the vaunted “monotheism,” the belief there is only one God?

The early Jews, in fact, were not at all “monotheists,” just monolaters — worshiping one god, theirs, while, by contrast, Greeks and Romans worshiped a whole pantheon (Zeus, Apollo, Athena, Ares, etc., and Egyptians had many gods, too).
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The Hebrews believed correctly that many “gods” existed (powerful beings who, by eating certain substances at regular intervals, became somewhat “immortal”), simply maintaining that their demon, Yahweh, was the best god for getting what they lusted after.
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If the Hebrews complied with his commands, and worshiped only him, they would be

1) rich,
2) powerful,
3) get lots of slaves,
4) have lots of sex with multiple wives and female slaves, and
5) wreak horrible vengeance on their enemies, like sawing people in half (“asunder” in the King James Bible).

 

So Yahweh goes on, talking clearly to another god: “[Adam] will know good from evil [agreeing thus with the serpent!!!!!! agreeing with Satan, incarnate appropriately as a snake!!!!], he must not be allowed to reach out his hand and pick from the tree of life too, and eat and live for ever!’”

So immortality comes from consuming a certain physical substance on this tree, which is exactly what the Greek gods did as well, drinking “nectar” and eating “ambrosia”!

What all this is about (with both Yahweh and Zeus) is evil, transdimensional, alien beings being tyrants over surface-earthling humans, showing by a hundred misdeeds that they were not in any way, shape or form the loving God that Jesus taught and worshipped, and called “Our Father”!

Any god who want to keep his human creatures ignorant, fearful and mortal (doomed to die, unlike them) is not the Christian “God-is-love” deity!

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/explore-the-bible/god-is-love-5-implications-of-this-amazing-attribute-of-god.htm

 

……Joseph Farrell’s fascinating book

Oxford PhD Joseph Farrell has written a masterpiece here about Yahweh as a real, horrible and extremely tall alien; his demonic worshippers, the Jews; and their conquest of the world via usury (money-lending at interest, then seizing real assets when debtors default — which the Jews often want to happen).

And I really have to smile, because it is a totally antisemitic book — but strictly between the lines. Not one sentence is antisemitic on the surface.

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……Rabbi Laitman: “We Jews are aliens, sent here to enslave these earthlings”

 

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2 Comments

  1. It’s one thing to be a blogger, or even religious leader, and another a statesman/politician. The latter must unite his country AND divide the enemy, in order to maximise the likelihood of his side being successful. I realise that the great one had to make a lot of choices between two bad options, but he definetely could have done a better job at dividing the enemy, especially the vile tribe. Instead of attacking them directly, he could have just attacked the left and their relationship with the Soviet Union. That would have allowed the Zionists to continue to work with Germany, even after the start of the war, thus dividing the Jewish front against Germany.

    • There are those VERY rare individuals who are raised to feel and identify as jewish, but who break away totally and radically from “the Tribe,” attacking and opposing it (such as Mordechai Vanunu, Bobby Fischer and currently Lori Kauffmann in Massachusetts.

      With such individuals who become active enemies of the Tribe one can obviously work.

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      Massachusetts Republican candidate Lori Kauffman, an avowed neo-Nazi, has pledged to “exile all Jews.”

      Read more here: https://www.rawstory.com/nazi-republican-candidate/

      “One of the candidates to represent a Boston-area district in the Massachusetts Republican Party’s State Committee is an avowed neo-Nazi who has pledged the mass expulsion of Jews from the United States.

      “Don’t forget I’ll likely get voted into office on March 5,” Lori Kauffman posted to her X account over the weekend. “Long term goals are to ban same sex marriage (never should have been legalized) and trans will be illegal. Yes illegal. I will also exile all Jews.”

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      But there can be no deals with organized jews who still identify as jews and support the jewish agenda of 1) world conquest, 2) 90% extermination of the goyim, and 3) enslavement of all goy survivors.

      We national socialists tried cooperation with German Jewry in the Ha’avara Accord of August 1933, which let 60,000 German jews emigrate to Palestine, with 39% of their money being used to buy German goods for jewish settlements.

      We considered jewish wealth to be largely stolen. Except for Dr.Eduard Block, who had been the family doctor of the Hitler family, and an exceptional person, the jews were not  allowed to leave Germany and Austria with all their money, which was often ill-gotten.)

      Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement):

      Under the Transfer Agreement, about 39% of an emigrant’s funds were given to Jewish communal economic development projects, leaving individuals with about 43% of the funds.

      But as this Wikipedia article shows, almost all major jew leaders opposed even this agreement. World jewry remained united, and it went on to instigate WWII to crush Germany and especially its anti-jewish government — just as this persistent people, in our time, have been demonizing Russia and Vladimir Putin, and pushing for war –against a country with 7,000 nukes.

      Adolf Hitler also complained that the jews in Palestine EVEN THEN were committing outrages against the Palestinians, which 1) bothered his conscience and 2) also caused Arabs to resent Germany.

      The Arab-speaking nations did not like being at that time colonies of France and England, either, and saw Germany as “the enemy of my enemy.” After WWII, Egypt, Syria and Iraq all took in German refugees.

      So…. all our efforts to have a good understanding with the jews and with Britain failed… IMO because Roosevelt was making secret assurances via his diplomats, especially the sinister half-jew William Bullitt (see below), that another war against Germany would be arranged, and America would eventually enter it and crush the antisemitic Germans for the jews yet again.

      Divide-and-conquer is a classic strategy of the jews themselves –and they never fall for it when we try it. I do not see any nifty trick that can work against these people.

      But individual “little jews” are usable — yes.

      After all, it was a person born jewish, Nicholas Donin, who came to loathe judaism, who was behind the Disputation of Paris. But he was truly an EX-jew in his heart, his words, and his deeds!
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