…..Maybe a very valuable video and maybe it also leaves out a lot
The discussion below presupposes you have read my key essay here, which is packed with hard facts (whether you agree with my evaluation of them or not), and that you accept its premises:
https://johndenugent.com/the-fourth-reich-and-nordic-aliens
In summary, the essay says that the government is lying about extraterrestrial life as it is lying about everything else. 😉
Specifically,
I posted on a Facebook page on Exopolitics (https://www.facebook.com/groups/286465718183769/?ref=br_tf):
I would like to ask Ed Komarek [author and founder of this FB page] and others their opinion of the Kerry Cassidy interview with supposed US Navy captain Marc Richards, now imprisoned and supposedly framed for murder. I imagine this has already been covered on this FB group page.
What I found suspicious was the dearth of info from Richards on the Nordic aliens, which would suggest that they are against the US government which has imprisoned and totally controls Richards. The US regime, many say, is now more and more Grey-controlled, and thereby, some say, ultimately Reptilian-controlled, and so Richards (if he is for real) was therefore not permitted to say anything about these Nordic aliens or Pleiadians, who might be the ultimate enemies of the US power elite.
Richards (whoever he is) seems to have no info to offer on either the militaristic, stand-offish Tall Whites (reportedly using a base in Nevada) or the generally friendly, blond Pleiadians.
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Ed Komarek I honestly don’t know what to make of this one. It sounds so outlandish but I figure it will shake out sooner or later. Cherry Hinkle was a friend to the guy who started all this stuff on Dulce [New Mexico, where supposedly there was a bloody firefight between US Air Force personnel and Greys] before he disappeared, so she would be a good one to talk to about this. She is on Facebook. My problem with Project Camelot is that they don’t seem to be able to tell the difference between obvious frauds on the one hand and real contact people and whistle-blowers on the other. So we have this mix of credible and non-credible interviews that tends to hurt the overall credibility of the site. That said, they have done some good interviews with credible people. They would be a obvious target for anybody running disinformation operations in the UFO community because of this inability to discriminate very well same as with Alfred.
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John D. Nugent Right — Kerry comes across as kind of naive, and maybe she is. Most of the interview does ring true…. but it is as if big topics are left out. -
Ed Komarek What’s needed here are more credible witnesses to come forward to at least confirm parts of the story. This has happened with Charles Hall [the US Air Force NCO who was the first to report on Tall Whites in Nevada]. I even travelled to Indian Springs and found more witnesses to the Tall Whites, so I pretty much stand behind his story.Tom Fox, who has a Tall White group, also has uncovered more witnesses that support parts of the Hall story. It’s all about good intelligence gathering and analysis. This is basically an intelligence problem as well as a political and scientific problem. -
John D. Nugent Very interesting, Ed, especially about the Tall Whites. I have found a lot of confusion in the cybersphere between the Tall Whites (that Charles Hall reports on) and the Pleiadians. Basically, all the two groups seem to have in common is being blond and tall. 😉One group, sez Hall, his Tall Whites, are said to be platinum-blond, very pale, icy-cold, top-down-hierarchical, contemptuous toward humans, and deeply hooked into the US government.The Pleiadians, on the other hand, particularly as depicted by Billy Meier, seem like gentle space hippies ;-), or, in 1950s parlance, “space brothers,” and they loathe the US government as being in bed with the Greys.
The Pleiadians are said to view the Greys as utterly treacherous and evil, based on supposedly their own disastrous experiences with them.The Mayans already were depicting the Greys.
It is claimed they pled with Eisenhower at (what is now called) Andrews AFB in 1954 to make no deals with them and Ike refused. As a result, one view is that we now have a Grey semi-takeover and a kind of authentic X-Files situation, the very outcome the Pleiadians warned against.-
Ed Komarek Now that the word is out to the public about the TW [Tall Whites, about whom the former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer has recently spoken], we got these frauds confusing the whole thing with the Nordics, who are completely different. Also Charles talks about the Norwegians with 24 teeth, but these do look a lot like the Nordics yet are not the same. For the latest info, check in with Tom Fox’s Tall White Facebook group. You will see reference to it down the page.
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Ed Komarek I tried to sort this all out in my book.
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Ed Komarek The Pleiadians may not even be the Nordics. There are Nordics in my local area doing environmental surveys according to my contactee friends. I assume they are keeping their data bases updated on earth, an important concern of theirs. I suspect a very advanced form of Google Earth — where everything is being recorded.
…..Travis Walton’s Fire in the Sky — the true story.
[Ed Komarek]
A little recent history here. I tend to side with Travis on this one. But I will be the first to admit that I have not kept up on this exopolitical controversy in the UFO/ET community. http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/02/steve-pierce-says-travis-walton-of-fire-in-the-sky-alien-abduction-film-never-left-the-truck-2464566.html
Steve Pierce & Travis Walton Of Fire In the Sky Alien Abduction Film At War With Each Other! by Jeffery…beforeitsnews.com-
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Michael M. Faitl Wow that one is new to me!!! -
Michael M. Faitl I’m still convinced that this case is the best-documented abduction we have. It’ been consistent for many years. I still believe Travis speaks truth. However I had recently one not too positive encounter with him. I follow his case for some time now, di.
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Joshua Behnke i just watched “Fire in the Sky” and think it’s a very good movie. He is truly lucky to be alive -
Lilah Lighto Travis criticized the movie for portraying the event as violent and scary, for “hollywoodizing” it.
Travis actually wishes to strike up another movie deal and make a remake that is more accurate, less frightening and sensationalism. -
Zen Benefiel I’ve known Travis for a number of years. I met his sister-in-law when I first move to Phoenix in 1981. We had life-changing experiences within a week of each other, which I found to be rather interesting. At any rate, Travis did change from angry to understanding a different possibility, in part from questions I posed of him while relating an observers viewpoint of what could have been another ‘reason’ for his encounter. He got hit with a static charge from the ship that basically killed him. He became a lightning rod by standing up and preparing to run back to the truck. Instead of leaving him there, like his macho-lumberjack buddies, they picked him up and ‘treated’ him much like a hospital would for a lightning strike victim… which takes about 5 days to recover. He wants to portray the supposed abductors in a different way now, and did at our group in Mesa. Sometimes it takes a while to get comfortable with a reality beyond our perception. I find him to be a generally humble man who maintains integrity and has a huge heart that he tries to hide just like most folks. He changed his career from lumberjack to midwife. That’s a huge statement of a huge shift in heart-space, wouldn’t you say?
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Michael M. Faitl I just recently attended a MUFON LA lecture with director of that movie, Tracy …. ( forgot his name ). He clearly explained why the movie wasn’t the way Travis wanted. Basically, they were forced to change the story by filming company or no movie would be made at all ….. Just standard Hollywood business
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Ash Staunton The movie was an absolute disgrace when it came to accurate portrayal of the humanoids- the human ETs Travis encountered (on the mothership he was taken to) weren’t even included in the film, and then other humanoids- well, every single aspect about them was inverted by hollywood- in reality they had large heads, large eyes and white skin- in the film they got given dark skin, small head and small beady eyes (all for fear manipulation and disinformation purposes). If they can’t get the most important facts right- who cares about the rest? Everyone involved should be ashamed. I have met Travis a few times and read his book- the best part of the book was his ‘speculation’ section- the rest was quite tedious- Travis, for whatever reason, made no effort to learn more about other contactees or their encounters with humanoids and chose to remain in his own bubble it seems. -
Michael M. Faitl Unfortunately, Travis didn’t have any control over the filming. The original script was correct, but they had to change it. Reason was, Hollywood didn’t like the fact that it was too mild, so they added and changed the whole encounter part and made it more dramatic. They wanted the movie to be dramatic, otherwise people wouldn’t like it. Profit is another whole issue
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Randy Cheek So, if he didn’t leave the truck but has been mind controlled to think he did….where was he for 5 days? Did I misread something? -
John D. Nugent What did he say about the ETs? Were at least some of them “Pleiadians,” that is, Nordic types?
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Thomas Anderson greys and nordics -
John D. Nugent Thanks. Are these “Nordics” relatively benevolent? What I have read is speculation that some of the “Nordics” are simply nordic-LOOKING clones created by the Greys to do their bidding. Some say the Tall Whites are another kind of GMO species , in effect, Nordics outwardly but with Grey personalities, in other words, hybrids, and anything but nice-guy “space brothers.” In fact, a human-looking ET would be useful in lowering our guard as to what evil things certain Greys may be up to. One source said that these pseudo-Nordics, unlike the Real McCoys, have short, thick necks…. As Ed Komarek says, we have a lot of “intel” and the task now is to evaluate it.
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Zen Benefiel He wasn’t mind-controlled, Randy. In regard to the five days – consider the amount of time necessary for a person who was struck by lightning to recover, that is if they even lived. He was never mistreated. You’ll have to buy his book to get the whole story. You can find it and others at www.UfologyPRSS.com
Latest UFO News, Aliens, UFOs, Ufology website – UFOs, Ovnis and Extraterrestria…See More -
Ed Komarek Their have their own agendas here but yes, they are relatively benevolent but do not cooperate with our secret government so they are harassed by our military.I watched this happen myself when jets from Moody AFB were chasing them in the Moultrie, Georgia area. I reported on it and pissed off the flight commander at Moody because the next day he dropped flares all around my contactee’s house and smoked up the place. Ha ha Its written up in one of my blog articles. Mary Ann is now dead, so I can use her name.
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Ash Staunton Good question John. The answer most likely is both, although undoubtedly there are genuine nordics out there, due to the amount of cases reported over the years — but the ‘hybrids’ of the Greys and their human-reproduction victims of ‘direct observance’ (the humanoid network’s term for abduction) can also appear as nordic-looking humans — and there could quite possibly be biological clones involved, too.
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Zen Benefiel Ed, you may disagree with me and that’s fine… but I suspect none of ‘them’ cooperate with our secret government, but the secret government would like us to think so because it keeps them ‘large and in charge.’ Many things are done to create the illusion of cooperation.
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Ed Komarek Plenty of evidence and cases in my book about the cooperation with the Greys, Zen. Start with Bill Uhouse for instance.
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Ed Komarek Ben Rich said we got “hand-me-downs” [only the Greys’ second-rate tech] from them. Charles Hall says our military has an alliance and trade with the TW — on and on, a preponderance of evidence. The source links are in the book
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Ed Komarek I footnote 169 sources in the book.
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Ed Komarek People can study my book and the sources and make up their own minds.
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Ed Komarek A post I just posted today interview with Tim Good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bckaMHbAeM…
In this exclusive thirdphaseofmoon interview, Dr. J spoke to British ufologist T…See More4 mins · LikeEd Komarek I don’t argue about a lot of this anymore I make my cases with sources in my book.
Zen Benefiel Like you say, Ed, there is a lot of stuff folks put out, but that doesn’t make it true. We’ve got to have the internal BS meter on alert always.
John D. Nugent My BS-meter goes on the ancient Roman principle in criminology: “Cui bono?” = “To whose benefit?” in Latin, that is, who benefits in the foreground and the background from the rumor, report or action?
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