Trump, what are you smoking on gun control ?!?!?!

June 17, 2016 John de Nugent English, News 1

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I just read and reread this email by the brilliant antizionist blogger Tom Mysiewicz, I clicked on every link, and now I am extremely concerned.
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The Donald: Making America Great or Disarming It?
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Donald Trump has been taking baby steps in his promised effort to “make America great again.”  

But those expecting great things had better listen to their candidate.  

Better yet, ask him about it.

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by Tom Mysiewicz
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 He has not even been nominated yet, yet Donald Trump is “making his bones” with the establishment by carefully-choreographed lobbying of the NRA to support gun-purchase bans for those on the “no fly list”–under which children as young as 18 months and 4 have been put on the list–apparently as some sort of pre-crime existential threat…with no way to find out how they got on or how to get off. (1)(2)(3)(4)
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And also to support gun bans for those on the “terrorist watch-list” (in which people are watched but, apparently, never apprehended until after some terrorist act.)
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Donald Trump to meet with NRA on banning gun sales for people on terror watch list

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By Jeremy Diamond and Deirdre Walsh, CNN

Updated 1901 GMT (0301 HKT) June 15, 2016

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Trump to meet with NRA 01:48

Story highlights

  • Donald Trump tweeted Wednesday that he planned to meet with the National Rifle Association
  • His tweet also suggested a major break in stance with the rest of his party over guns
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Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Wednesday he will meet with the National Rifle Association to discuss barring individuals on the terror watch list and “no fly” list from legally purchasing guns.

“I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns,” the presumptive Republican presidential nominee tweeted Wednesday.
Chris W. Cox, the NRA’s executive director for its Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement that the organization’s leaders are happy to meet with Trump.
“The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed,” Cox said. “The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing.”
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Cox said the NRA also called for “due process protections” for “law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed.”
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Trump has portrayed himself as staunchly pro-gun rights throughout his campaign, even claiming that his presumptive general election opponent Hillary Clinton wants to “abolish the 2nd Amendment.”
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When asked Wednesday to clarify Trump’s stance on guns, campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said, “Mr. Trump has already stated his position on this. He looks forward to what he thinks will be a productive meeting.”
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Trump, whom the NRA endorsed in May, has previously said during his campaign that he is opposed to any further restrictions on gun rights in the wake of recent mass shootings.
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Trump in December appeared to think that individuals on the terror watch list were already banned from buying guns.
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“If people are on the watch list or people are sick, you have — this is already covered in the legislation we already have George. It’s already fully covered,” Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview after the San Bernardino terror attack.
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When Stephanopoulos explained that was not the case under current law, Trump said, “if we have an enemy of state, I don’t want to give him anything.”
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RELATED: Donald Trump goes after Hillary Clinton on guns
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Most congressional Republicans oppose the push to pass a measure to ban gun sales to those on the terror watch list, arguing that would violate individuals’ Constitutional right to bear arms. They also maintain that many people are mistakenly added to that list and should not be subject to a broad prohibition.
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A few GOP members in competitive suburban area seats do support the proposal. On Tuesday, Illinois Rep. Bob Dold, broke ranks and called for an immediate vote on legislation to prevent people on terror watch lists from obtaining guns. But Dold has been working for months to distance himself from Trump, criticizing his stances on the Muslim ban and other issues, and saying he will not endorse the GOP nominee.
New Hampshire Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, who faces a tough re-election campaign this year, responded to Trump’s tweet with her own, saying, “We need to work together to solve this & ensure terrorists can’t buy guns.”
Pennsylvania GOP Sen. Pat Toomey, who is in a tight re-election race, is in talks with a gun control group, Everytown for Gun Safety, on a potential compromise bill addressing those on the terror watch list.
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The group was founded by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a longtime proponent of expanded background checks and other measures aimed at reducing gun violence.
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Congressional Democrats have, in the wake of the Orlando shootings that killed 49 people, called for legislation that would prevent people on the federal government’s terror watch list from buying guns. The same proposal, authored by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, failed on a largely party line vote in the chamber last year.
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Republicans have championed a counter proposal from Texas Sen. John Cornyn that would put a three-day delay on a gun purchase by someone on the watch list but also give the attorney general the ability to take the issue to court to get a permanent ban. That measure has received more support than Feinstein’s proposal — but still not enough to pass.
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Feinstein released updated data from the Government Accountability Office Wednesday that showed individuals on the terrorist watchlist passed a background check to purchase firearms or explosives 91% of the time.
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FBI data showed that individuals on the watchlist were involved in firearm-related background checks 244 times — 223 of the transactions were approved, and 21 were denied, according to the GAO.
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Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy launched a filibuster Wednesday afternoon, calling on the chamber to take action on gun control.
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His spokesman said Murphy will continue to “hold the floor to push for a vote on amendments to close the terror gap and expand background checks.”
RELATED: Hill Democrats to push gun legislation despite poor odds

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CNN’s Rachel Chason, Ted Barrett, Manu Raju and Eugene Scott contributed to this report.

[end CNN online article]

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These are, of course, the same measures being supported more openly and blatantly by his prospective rival, Goldman-Sachs “valedictorian” Hillary Clinton.
 
Paul Ryan and his Republican cohort caved in on June 15th to a Democrat filibuster and agreed to allow a vote on the above.  With more than a few Republicans being closet homosexuals, and others counting on funding from homosexual-oriented groups such as the “Log Cabin Republicans” (don’t ask me to explain that one to you!) expect to see quite a few defections from the party line.  This bill has a chance of passage and, if passed, will drive the last stake into the heart of the 2nd Amendment.
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What this bill would do is give any political group in power the power to disarm its opponents--exactly what the 2nd Amendment was designed to prevent–the political process degenerating into open thuggery and even civil war.  
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On any whim, a person with unpopular beliefs can be placed on this list and face an endless bureaucratic maze trying to get off, at the end of which would be the new Supreme Court with a majority of leftist and anti-gun judges.
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The no-fly list is completely against every legal principle in the West since Magna Carta–no accusers, no indictment and bill of charges, no conviction, no recourse and no penalties for abuse.  But my question for the government is that, even if someone is on your “terrorist watch-list” why would you want to stop them from buying a gun???
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Because, if you do that and this person is a terrorist the person might be clued in and secretly get weapons from Mexican or Central American drug cartels.  Curiously, these are the very groups it has been revealed the U.S. Government indirectly provided ASSAULT RIFLES to in the “Fast and Furious” operation. (5)  
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More importantly, you would reveal to the subject the fact that he or she IS on the terrorist watch list!!!  Preventing them from contacting members of their terror network.  The same goes for the no-fly list.  If someone on it was a real threat, wouldn’t it be more useful to screen and watch the person more carefully in hopes of learning connections and intentions?  Why tell them they’re under observation?  
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Let’s call a spade a spade.  I grew up around cops and this legislation makes no sense unless one considers it a political weapon being used by one faction to completely disarm a large cross-section of the American population for which some sort of major political/economic coup is being planned.  It in no way would prevent an Orlando-type shooting–in which the claimed perpetrator was a security guard (with full clearance from 2007 to 2015) with a major U.S. Government contractor, G4S (formerly Wackenhut.) (6)  It would prevent law-abiding Americans from getting weapons, while still leaving the borders open to arms trafficking by alien criminal gangs.  
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And how would this type of legislation stop the mythical “lone wolf”–wouldn’t significant weapons purchases be the only indicator that such an individual needed to be watched more closely?  

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(Of course, a real “lone wolf” wouldn’t be on the radar, would he or she?  So logically you’d have to disarm EVERYONE to know for sure.)

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It’s almost as if someone studied the Russian Revolution and is determined to repeat the process, only with a little less damage to the economy (since the financial backers of the 1917 Revolution pretty much own the means of production now.)  
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The question Americans should be asking, in light of Trump’s statements and NRA meeting: to what extent is Trump willing to participate in such an endeavor?
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[end of Mysiewicz email]

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  1. doesn’t Donald Trump support the NDAA/Indefinite Detention which created terrorist watch list in the first place?

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