If reptilians are real, are we not “screwed”? No, we have help — but only a battle for hearts and minds can be won

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Holly Bell I was following Wes Penre, Stewart Swerdlow and several others until they became radical with this reptilian agenda. I don’t know? If they are real, I suppose we should kiss our ass** goodbye. If not dwelling on Syfy is not helping our fight against the jews. Which do we focus on. I myself feel Admiral Byrd really did find a middle earth, and the beings inside warned us to stop warring and dropping nuclear bombs?

Oh, yeah, we were “exploring” Antarctica — with a heavily armed flotilla of warships — until the Nazis, who had supposedly unconditionally surrendered, kicked our American ass.” Shhhhhhhhhhhh!

Where does this begin and end? And again, what are we little people to do about it, considering our current events?

John de Nugent Okay, Holly, you are asking a really good question, and here is the answer.
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You have to do a mental paradigm shift. Just as reptilians are real, and have been for millennia,
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https://johndenugent.com/english/mexican-cave-reveals-sculptures-of-apparent-alien-greys/

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so are good aliens. Some are among us now. Some of them are humans, nordics, and they blend right in. Some dye their hair dark, in fact.  😉 
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https://johndenugent.com/english/nordics-against-reptilians-as-cro-magnons-look-on-in-wonder/

https://johndenugent.com/english/whites-today-come-from-a-mix-of-cro-magnons-and-et-nordics-two-waves-from-the-galaxy-that-made-atlantis-egypt-greece-rome-and-the-modern-west/

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But they neither CAN nor are they allowed to fight our battles physically for us.
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Yes, the nordics and reptilians could just “go at it” here on this earth, but both sides have nukes — and they have weapons beyond nukes. A physical battle would fry our planet earth to a blackened, smoking crisp.
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It is a battle of ideas that must be won: a battle of hearts, and a battle of souls.
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As the expression goes, a full-scale war would mean MAD — Mutually Assured Destruction.
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Hiroshima
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It was the same in Vietnam and Korea: Neither the US nor USSR went “all in,” because both sides had nukes.
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In the same way, neither nordics nor reptilians would gain anything at all by appearing with their fleets of UFOs, armed to the teeth and blasting away the other side.
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There was an ET battle over Nuremberg in 1561, the entire region saw it, and the newspapers of the day reported on it. But neither side was able to take over the earth. One craft is seen shot down, lower right. The giant black dagger was a kind of mother ship, and when this monster warship appeared, the other side promptly fled.
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Five years later, in 1566 there was another UFO battle, this time in the skies over Basel, Switzerland. Not how startled the humans on the ground, the Swiss, looked and how they gesticulated.
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Some, who say all aliens are harmless, seem to have reptilian genes,  such as noted ufologist Dr. Steven Greer, who is intelligent and puts out some great info, but is also very “off” —  and also constantly says his wife is Jewish.
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Then the other side would show up also armed tp the teeth, and if they “went at it” over us, WE would be the ones who died. Can you understand it if I explain it this way?
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They cannot openly intervene, or things will escalate to mutually assured destruction.
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And then, as Dr. Joseph Farrell, Oxford graduate, says, we will end up like the planet that once was full of life, but after a war with earth long ago is now the chunks of dead rock that form the asteroid belt.
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THAT asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter was once a PLANET that ancient earthlings destroyed in a planetary war. https://johndenugent.com/images/asteroid-belt.jpgManage
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Once all sides can go nuclear, then nuclear war is pointless. No one wins; almost everybody who were supposed to be saved or even to win will die.
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Therefore, we must win this one heart and soul at a time.
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For this we need, and I am creating, a new Aryan organized faith, a faith for the ages. And if it takes us 25 generations of sacrifice, WE WILL WIN.
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Once a folk has tasted national socialism, THE JOY, THE MEANING IT GIVES TO LIFE, the pride and the love that brings people together, it will be unable to imagine living any other way.

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…..Level-headed Englishwoman, wife and mother describes October 1954 close-up encounter in Staffordshire with nordics – “so sympathetic, so compassionate”

1954 Jessie Roestenberg UFO Case Is UK Most Famous Close Encounter With Nordic Aliens

ByVicky Verma

In 1954, a British woman named Jessie Roestenberg claimed to have seen a disc-shaped flying saucer of aluminum color, hovering over her cottage near Staffordshire. She also saw two Nordic figures that were sitting in the craft.

 

Jessie Roestenberg, a wife of a young Dutchman named Tony Roestenberg, lived with their two sons and a daughter in a small cottage at Vicarage Farm, Ranton, near Staffordshire, UK. It was a very remote area, and they had no electricity and indoor plumbing.

 

On October 21, 1954, at around 4:45 pm, she was inside her house with her 2-year-old daughter Karin. Her two sons, Anthony (8) and Ronald (6) were playing outside in the garden. Suddenly, she heard a loud sound like an aircraft crash. As she stepped out, her sons were terrified and shouting: “Mommy, Mommy, there’s a flying saucer.” She saw a round UFO that was hovering above them.

 

The woman stated that the front part of the object was transparent, and she could see two human-like figures inside it. She described them as Nordics with long hair and long faces. Jessie saw them wearing tight-fitting blue suits, and their heads were in transparent helmets.

 

The Wolverhampton Express and Star Oct. 22, 1954:

A woman today told the “Express and Star” that she and her two children had been terrified by a flying saucer, carrying “two long-haired human-like creatures in tight-fitting jerseys.”The machine landed in the garden, she stated.When she heard a noise like a crashing aircraft, yesterday, Mrs Jessie Roestenburg, of isolated Vicarage Farm, ran out into the garden. She found her two children lying prostrate and terrified. The next house to Vicarage Farm is about two miles away.Above the children was a huge, saucer-like object with a dome, the front part of which was transparent, stated Mrs. Roestenberg.Staring at the children from the machine were two “unsmiling, human-like creatures, with long faces and long hair.”

This is a sketch, made today by Mrs. Roestenberg, of the object that she states she saw in her garden, It appeared to be of “a dull silver metal,” and the outer rim seemed to be revolving.

 

According to Express and Star, she told reporters that the UFO circled the house two times before it flew away at a high speed. She noted that the two creatures had compassionate faces, but she said: “The boys were so terrified that they would not go out again last night,” she said. “The dog was nowhere to be seen. I think it must have bolted.”

 

 

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Researcher Gavin Gibbons who investigated the Roestenberg case wrote in his book “The Coming of the Space Ships‘ by Gavin Gibbons” the following:

“When I visited the Roestenberg’s house almost three weeks after the sighting…Jessie Roestenberg appeared. She seemed highly strained and nervous and her husband, coming in later, was also very strained. It was evident that something most unusual had occurred.”

Originally, Gibbons was a linguist and scholar. He called the flying saucers extraterrestrial space ships. He used the Sanskrit term “Vimanas” for the disc-shaped scout craft and “Vunu” for cigar-shaped UFOs.

In Gibbons’ opinion, Jessie encountered the UFO with aliens just like George Adamski had described. But the series of UFO encounters did not stop there.

Based on his interviews with the family, Gibbons gave a more detailed account of the Roestenburg story and what was seen:

they looked very like Earthly men, with white skins and long hair down to their shoulders. Their foreheads seemed immensely high, with the features almost entirely in the bottom half of their faces. Their heads were enclosed in what appeared to be some sort of transparent helmet and they were dressed in clothes of turquoise blue that resembled ski suits that Mrs. Roestenburg had seen.

***  LOL, kinda like me….more than half my face is the forehead…..

 

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The saucer’s exit:

It was hovering over the house! Very low and completely silent, a queer, round thing was standing in the air immediately over the little cottage… Their heads were in a whirl… As Jessie Roestenberg watched, appalled, the vimana began to move, flashing a purply blue light from the front of it as it did so. At an angle of 45° it started to ascend, making no sound as it moved, but continuing the flashing the whole time.

With a gasp of relief, Jessie ran into the house, intent on finding pencil and paper to sketch what she and the children had seen. As she looked for the stub of a pencil, the boys called out again from the garden.

With fear returning once more to her heart she ran outside to see the Saucer coming back again, this time from north to south. It circled the house in an anti-clockwise direction one and a half times and then streaked skywards. It had gone at last

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A photograph of the Roestenberg family

Interestingly, Tony Roestenberg saw something unusual on the following October 24, 1954, when he climbed the roof of his house. He saw a high-speed cigar-shaped UFO suddenly disappear into the clouds. Another incident happened on December 15, 1954. Tony saw a bright ball, flying very silently in the sky. First, he measured the length of the UFO with his arm which was around two to three inches. But when he went to the other side of his house, its length was about 18 inches. The fireball was moving very slow at a low altitude. After some time, he heard the sound of an airplane, coming from the east. As the plane approached closer, the fireball flew away at an incredibly high speed, disappearing in no time.

Gibbons visited the Roestenbergs at their new home in Stafford many times in 1955, and he was assured that there was no motive for a hoax. They looked happy in the new house, and when Gibbons asked why they had left the old house, Tony replied that since the first UFO incident had happened, the house became haunted for them.

 

In 1976, Hugh Burnett was preparing a UFO documentary for the BBC, and he approached Charles Bowen and Gordon Creighton of Flying Saucer Review. They gave him the contact information for Jessie Roestenberg. The documentary was titled Out of this World, and it was first broadcast on May 10, 1977, on BBC 1. It’s largely responsible for reviving interest in the case, and today, most people are probably familiar with Jessie Roestenburg’s story via the YouTube clip of her from the programIt’s often shared with comments noting how genuine, sincere, and credible she appears.

She described the saucer as looking like a Mexican hat, and the occupants were beautiful people with long golden hair, wearing  coverings over their heads like a “transparent fishbowl.”
Jessie at age 90 in 2015

“They just looked, and I was absolutely paralytic with fear. I couldn’t move, although my mind was taking over. And they seemed so sympathetic that I was mesmerized, seemed to be – oh, ages, but it could have only been seconds. After checking on her boys, “I looked up and it was gone.” 

Asked about the size of the object, she says it was “massive,” that it was larger than the roof of the house. She said they saw the object again in the distance, that it circled them three times then it shot off.

Here is the short clip of Jessie Roestenberg (aged 90) shot by John Hanson in 2015.

 

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…..Signs of the Great Awakening

“Black Sun” SS symbol appeared in 2015 in a giant English crop circle; the royal adjutant in RAF comes clean about a telepathic “human alien” who knew all British nuclear weapon secrets

SUMMARY: AFTER THE RECENT APPEARANCE OF SEVERAL ROUND-SWASTIKA CROP CIRCLES, NOW THIS. I BELIEVE THAT A COMBINATION OF THE FOURTH REICH AND NORDIC ALIENS COULD DO SOMETHING, OR ENCOURAGE US TO NOW DO SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO HELP THEM

” PREPARE MANKIND TO WELCOME THE RETURNING REICH WITH OPEN ARMS AS THEIR FRIEND …..

 

 

…. AND NOT AS THE CRUEL TYRANNY THE JEWS PORTRAY IN A THOUSAND TV SHOWS, BOOKS AND MOVIES?

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Will myy religion succeed?

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……Google images of crop circles: always perfect and they appear instantly

https://www.google.com/search?q=crop+circle+1970&client=opera&hs=Kgf&tbm=isch&imgil=sqOFmf_lcuG7PM%253A%253BwJJ4Vx9NbIHKCM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fcropcircles.net%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=sqOFmf_lcuG7PM%253A%252CwJJ4Vx9NbIHKCM%252C_&biw=787&bih=536&usg=__cAmWfC0YQJTv95EgSFuPrunxV1s%3D&ved=0CCgQyjdqFQoTCJTPvJLvn8cCFUaAkgodmTQBCA&ei=hE7JVZT9BcaAygSZ6YRA#tbm=isch&q=crop+circle

 

Fox Ground Down, Nr Blandford Forum, Dorset, England, reported 30th May 2015.

….Giant crop circle in the shape of the SS’s special symbol, the Black Sun designed in the 1930s

Ox Drove, near Bowerchalke, Wiltshire, United Kingdom. Reported 8th August.

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[source: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2015/oxdrove/oxdrove2015.html]


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In numerology 888 (August [eight month], 8, 2015 [2+1+5 = 8]; the symbol of Adolf Hitler is 88 [Heil Hitler = HH = eighth letter of the alphabet twice = 88] ¦.

(Also, in the year 888, the first German-European Reich, created by Charlemagne, collapsed ” see Wikipedia under “888”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888 )

This is definitely an exact SS-type, National Socialist, esoteric swastika wheel, as in the floor symbol at Wewelsburg castle, the spiritual home of the SS; see the Wikipedia article “Black Sun” (occult meaning) to see for yourself.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/WewelsburgCastle/SSGeneralsHall.html

Since IMO Adolf Hitler is the most defamed man who ever lived, whose goal was to liberate mankind from the bloodsucking Zionist hydra, I hope this means that he, or his forces and successor, will return and cleanse this suffering world ” and successfully this time ” before this planet becomes a miserable slave-world under a greedy, cruel, arrogant, Jewish master race.

….Speculation

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.geocities.com/irminenschaft/Cosmology/Schwarzesonne.html&date=2009-10-26+00:33:25

 

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…the weird, alien-language 2007 “dragonfly drone”

http://www.crystalinks.com/dragonflydrones.html

…..Wikipedia on the “Black Sun”

Found in a floor mosaic in the Hall of Generals of the SS at Wewelsburg Castle [pronounced “Vay-velz-boork”]

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Castle is just left of center on a hill

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Black Sun (occult symbol)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[I, JdN, have added a few appropriate photos, but have not changed the text.]
For other uses, see Black Sun (disambiguation).

A depiction of the “Black Sun” the design of which is based primarily on the shape of the Wewelsburgsunwheel mosaic [on the floor of] the “Obergruppenführer”-Hall (SS Generals’ Hall).

The former SS Generals’ Hall (German: “Obergruppenführersaal”) on the first floor of the North Tower of Wewelsburg Castle with the dark-green sun-wheel mosaic located on the floor in the center of the hall. Since 1991, occasionally the marble inlay has been called the “Black Sun” “ especially by right-wing authors.[citation needed]

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[Did you notice, at the very end of the video, from the grave marker that the death of the greatest tank ace of the Waffen-SS, Michael Wittmann, who was a household name in Germany, and bearer of the Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross with oak leaves and swords, was on 8.8.44? 888?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann]

Since then, the mosaic has been linked to esoteric concepts about a “Black Sun” which have been discussed by neo-nazi circles since the post-war years. The architects who redesigned the castle during the Nazi era called the axis of the North Tower the “Center of the World”.

The term Black Sun (German Schwarze Sonne), also referred to as the Sonnenrad (German for “Sun Wheel”), is a symbol of esoteric and occultsignificance. Its design is based on a sun wheel mosaic incorporated into a floor of Wewelsburg Castle during the Nazi era.

Today, it may also be used in occult currents of Germanic neopaganism, and in Irminenschaft or Armanenschaft ”inspired esotericism ”but not necessarily in a racial or neo-Nazi context. Despite its contemporary use, the Black Sun had not been identified with the ornament in Wewelsburg before 1991, although it had been discussed as an esoteric concept in neo-Nazi circles since the 1950s.[1]

Historical background[edit]

 Alemannic brooches with designs reminiscent of the Wewelsburg symbol.[2]

The design has loose visual parallels in Migration Age Alemannicbrooches (Zierscheiben), possibly a variation of the Roman swastika fibula, thought to have been worn on Frankishand Alemannic women’s belts.[3] Some Alemannic or Bavarian specimens incorporate a swastika symbol at the center.[4] The number of rays in the brooches varies between five and twelve.

Goodrick-Clarke (2002) does connect the Wewelsburg design with the Early Medieval Germanic brooches, and does assume that the original artifacts had a solar significance, stating that “this twelve-spoke sun wheel derives from decorative disks of the Merovingiansof the early medieval period and are supposed to represent the visible sun or its passage through the months of the year.”[5]

He further refers to scholarly discussion of the brooches in Nazi Germany,[6] allowing for the possibility that the designers of the Wewelsburg mosaic were indeed inspired by these historical precedents.

Wewelsburg mosaic[edit]

The shape of the symbol as it is used within Germanic mysticist esotericism and Neo-Nazism today is based primarily on the design of a floor mosaic at the castle of Wewelsburg(built 1603), a Renaissancecastle located in the northwest of North Rhine-Westphalia,Germany.

During the Third Reich the castle became the representative and ideological center of the order of the SSHeinrich Himmler, the leader of the SS, wanted to establish the “Center of the New World”.[7] A focus of the actual SS-activities at the castle were archaeological excavations in the surrounding region and studies on Germanic early history.[8][9]

The mosaic is located in the ground floor room of the North-Tower of the castle, in the so-called Obergruppenführersaal (“Obergruppenführer hall”, completed 1939-1943).[10](“Obergruppenführer” (literally: “Upper-Group-Leader”) was the SS-rank parallel to General in the Wehrmacht or Lieutenant-General in the US and British armies.) It is not known if the SS had a special name for the ornament, or if they attributed a special meaning to it. However, the sun wheel is significant for the Germanic light-and-sun mysticism[11] which was propagated by the SS.

In their studies on sense characters, the sun apart was interpreted as “the strongest and most visible expression of god”, the number twelve as significant for “the things related to goal and completion”.[12]The mosaic at Wewelsburg itself is dark green (see two photos: top view and close-up in high-resolution (1.1 MB)) on a whitish/greyish marble floor. Probably a golden disc was originally located in the middle of the ornament.[13][14][unreliable source?]

Traditional Christianity was to be replaced by a “völkisch” (folkish or racial) cult. Instead of Christianity, Himmler wanted a moral doctrine derived from the pre-Christian, pagan, Germanic heritage. Cultic ceremonies and rituals were part of the everyday life of the SS. The Wewelsburg was to be a center of a “race-appropriate” religion (German: “artgemäße” Religion)[15][16]

The North-Tower of the castle was to be the center of a planned circular estate, 1.27 kilometres in diameter.[17][18] The architects called the complex the “Center of the World” from 1941 onwards.

The North-Tower, which had survived a ruin after 1815, only assumed importance for Himmler starting in the autumn of 1935. In the process of Himmler establishing the castle as a cult site (an ideological and religious center of the SS), the tower was to serve the highest-ranking SS leaders as a meeting place and probably as location for quasi-religious devotions. Nothing is known about the possible way and the kind of arrangement of designated ceremonies in the tower ”the redesigned rooms were never used.[19] According to the architects, the axis of the North-Tower was to be the actual “Center of the World”.[20]

The inside of the complete castle was redesigned in a Nazi-specific mythological way (see the Wewelsburg SS School). SS architect Hermann Bartels presented a first draft of plans that envisioned using the North Tower on three different levels. However, a meeting in the first floor mosaic room never occurred ”the building work at the room was stopped in 1943.[21] In 1945, when the “final victory” did not materialize, the castle was partially blasted and set on fire by the SS, but the two redesigned rooms in the North-Tower stayed intact.

It is not known with any certainty whether this symbol was placed in the marble floor at Wewelsburg before or during the National Socialist Regime. There remains speculation as to whether the symbol was placed in the hall by the Nazis or whether it was there previously but there is no definitive proof either way. The book sold by the Wewelsburg museum on the history of the castle from 1933 to 1945 makes no mention of who put it there. The plans for the North Tower by SS architect Hermann Bartelsmake no mention of it. Scholars today are reluctant to say with any certainty why it was put there, or by whom.[5][22] Because the ceilings of the North-Tower were cast in concrete and faced with natural stone during the Third Reich, it is more likely that the ornament was created during the Himmler era.

There is, although its origins are unknown, an identical rendition of the Wewelsburg Schwarze Sonne in a wall painting at a World War II military bunker memorial to Bismarck in Hamburg below a statue of Bismarck (see Bismarck-Monument (Hamburg)). It is with a central piece incorporating a sunwheel and swastikas and the texts “Nicht durch Reden werden große Fragen entschieden, sondern durch Eisen und Blut” (“Great questions will not be resolved by talk, but by iron and blood”).[23][24][25][26][unreliable source?]

Vienna Lodge[edit]

The “Black Sun” is often associated with the mystic-esoteric aspects of National Socialism. Origin of a phantastic post war “SS mysticism” which refers to the “Black Sun” not as a symbol but as a kind of esoteric concept is a right-wing esoteric circle in Vienna in the early 1950s.[27] The speculations of the Vienna Lodge “ also known as the Landig Group  “ did not relate their concept of the “Black Sun” to the ornament in the Wewelsburg. This identification took place as late as 1991, in the novel Die Schwarze Sonne von Tashi Lhunpo.

The former SS member Wilhelm Landig of the Vienna Lodge “coined the idea of the Black Sun, a substitute swastika and mystical source of energy capable of regenerating the Aryan race”.[5]Rudolf J. Mund (also a former SS member and later also member of the Vienna Lodge) discusses a relationship of the Black Sun with alchemy. The visible sun is described as a symbol of an invisible anti-sun: “Everything that can be comprehended by human senses is material, the shadow of the invisible spiritual light. The material fire is “ seen in this way “ also just the shadow of the spiritual fire.”[28]

The ideas of the Vienna Lodge were later continued by the Tempelhofgesellschaft. The German scholar Julian Strube has shown a direct exchange of idea between this younger generation and the circle surrounding Landig.[1] After the Tempelhofgesellschaft had been dissolved, its member Ralf Ettl founded the Freundeskreis (circle of friends) Causa Nostra that remains active.

Nazi and Neo-Nazi significance[edit]

The term Black Sun may originate with the mystical “Central Sun” in Helena Blavatsky ˜sTheosophy. This invisible or burnt out Sun (Karl Maria Wiligut ˜s Santur in Nazi mysticism) symbolizes an opposing force or pole.[citation needed]Emil Rüdiger, of Rudolf John GorslebensEdda-Gesellschaft (Edda Society), claimed that a fight between the new and the old Suns was decided 330,000 years ago (Karl Maria Wiligut dates this 280,000 years ago), and that Santur had been the source of power of the Hyperboreans.[citation needed]

The Wewelsburg symbol can be deconstructed into three swastikas; a “rising”, a “zenith” & a “setting” one, the design is popular among German Neo-Nazis as a replacement for the outlawed singular swastika symbol. Another interpretation is that the symbol incorporates twelve reversed “Sig runes” of the Armanen runes.

[JdN: I added these two symbols to the article.]

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Allegedly, the design was drawn for Heinrich Himmler from an “old Aryan emblem”,[29]and was meant to mimic the Round table of Arthurian legend with each spoke of the sun wheel representing one “knight” or Officer of the “inner” SS.

The symbol of the Black Sun is purported to unite the three most important symbols of Nazi ideology “ the sun wheel, the swastika and the stylized victory rune.” and that it is symbolic in its form representing “the twelve SS Knights of The Order of the Death’s Head and their three retainers”.[30]

Erich Halik was the first to link the esoteric SS with the Black Sun roundel insignia carried by German aircraft in the polar region at the close of World War II.[5][31]

 

Contemporary use[edit]

After 1945[edit]

The name Schwarze Sonne (“Black Sun”) came into existence for the first time after WWII. Already in the 1950s it was used by neo-Nazis around Wilhelm Landig, being a symbol associated with the SS.

The “Black Sun” is used extensively by many other neo-Nazis around Europe and the world.[32]

Black Sun sported by the Azov Battalion

The “Black Sun” is also used by the Azov Battalionwhich has been battling the separatists in Eastern Ukraine.[33][34]

Contemporary esotericism[edit]

The symbol has been used by a variety of esotericists; for example, as the official symbol of the occult group Black Order of the Theozoa. The name of the well-known Black Sun Press (a private literary press active in Paris in the 1920s and 1930s) reflects the occult interests of one of its founders, Harry Crosby, but pre-dates the emergence of the esoteric Nazi symbol.

Occasionally, and unscientifically, black dwarfs are referred to as black suns. This is not entirely unrelated to the esoteric meaning, since ariosophyalleges a burnt out sun that was the source of power of the Aryans in some mystical past (see also Karl Maria Wiligut). Others[who?] regard the Black Sun as a black hole; before the term black hole was coined in 1967, black holes (then still theoretical) were sometimes called black stars or dark stars. Still others, such as Miguel Serrano, think of the Black Sun as a wormhole. Influenced by a combination of the esoteric and the astronomical meaning. See Black Sun (disambiguation) for examples of the term as used in popular culture.

According to neopythagorean sources, the Black Sun signifies the central point of the Galaxy.

Alternative design[edit]

The symbol described by Peter Moon and Joseph Farrell, described as the symbol of the Black Sun.[35][36] It was first used in a publication of the Tempelhofgesellschaft, in 1987[1]

In 1988/1990 and 1992, the Austrian authors Norbert Jürgen Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl produced the documentaries “UFO “ Das Dritte Reich schlägt zurück? (1998/1990) (UFO “ The Third Reich Strikes Back?)”[37][38] and “UFO “ Geheimnisse des Dritten Reichs (1990) (UFO “ Secrets of the Third Reich)”[39][40] which talks of the Thule Society with the Geheimnis Schwarze Sun flashing on screen and talking about it.

Professor Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke states that “In the early 1990s, the Austrians Norbert Jürgen Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl and developed new nazi UFO myths involving ancient Babylon, Vril energy and extraterrestrial civilisation in the solar system of Aldebaran.

These colourful ideas are integral elements of a dualist Marcionite religion [a Jew-free,Yahweh-rejecting Jesus] propagated by Ralf Ettl through his Tempelhofgesellschaft (Temple Society) in Vienna, identified as a secret successor to the historic Templars, who had absorbed Gnostic and heretical ideas in the Levant”[41]

Ratthofer and Ettl state in “UFO “ Geheimnisse des Dritten Reichs (1990) (UFO “ Secrets of the Third Reich)”[39] that “Within the SS the Thule Society created a separate secret organisation called the “Black Sun”” with the “Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne” as its logo. This is a reference to the older narrative developed by the Vienna circle.[1]

Jürgen-Ratthofer and Ettl were members of the Tempelhofgesellschaft that was originally founded in the 1980s. Its first major publication, Einblick in die magische Weltsicht und die magischen Prozesse (1987), maintained an esoteric interpretation of the Black Sun that later resurfaced in Landig’s Rebellen für Thule, making the exchange between this younger generation and the Vienna Circle evident. The ideas of the THG were further disseminated by their brochure Das Vril-Projekt. They significantly contributed to the identification of the Black Sun with the ornament in the Wewelsburg that had first been suggested in the novel Die Schwarze Sonne von Tashi Lhunpo.[1]

In 1997 author Peter Moon (real name: Vince Barbarick), wrote a book entitled ˜The Black Sun: Montauk’s Nazi-Tibetan Connection’ in which he refers to an image (pictured) as the ˜Signet of the Black Sun’ (a secret order in Germany, also referred to as the ˜Order of the Black Sun’) and that it is “the symbol of the innermost secret society of Nazi Germany: the Black Sun. It is illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today.”[42]

This image and information was, according to Moon, originally provided to him by van Helsing around 1996, along with additional information on Nazi flying discs. Moon alleges that Helsing allegedly got it from Templar groups who emerged from East Germany after the Berlin Wall fell and Germany reunited. The German edition of Moon’s book on the Black Sun had to have the image removed.

Van Helsing, however, did not write specifically on this symbol and mentioned the Black Sun just in a few phrases. But, from what Moon states, van Helsing could be talking about Ralf Ettl and his Tempelhofgesellschaft (Temple Sociey) in Vienna, identified as a secret successor to the historic Templars.

In 2005 American Scholar Dr. Joseph P. Farrell, in his book ˜Reich of the Black Sun’, also states that the symbol was adopted by the Thule Society but also adopted as an emblem for von Liebenfels ˜ New Templars.[43] Farrell also states that in contemporary German Federal Law it is forbidden to be displayed.[43] Farrell doesn’t cite any sources, not referring to Norbert Jürgen Ratthofer and Ralf Ettl, Jan van Helsing or Peter Moon. Additionally, he states it was adopted by the Thule Society and the New Templars, without citation, and in contradiction to the information supplied by van Helsing and Moon. Farrell has stated that as for primary sources, he does not have one other than Ralf Ettl and Juergen Ratthofer for the Black Sun concept.[44]

In 2007 author Ron McVan published written works within a Wotanist context utilising the Alternative Black Sun Symbol.[45]

British Professor Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke B.A. doesn’t mention this image in either of his books on the history of occultism in Nazi Germany but shows the Thule Society emblem to have been this image[46][47] and Liebenfels’ New Templars logo to be this image.[48]

In popular culture[edit]

Scottish comics writer Grant Morrison, in his 2000 AD series Zenith, makes repeated references to a Black Sun cult, which is a combination of Nazi and Lovecraftian ideas. They are the main agents in this world for the extradimensional running villains of the series, the Lloigor, and are the ones at the start of the series who engineer the resurrection of Master Man, the vessel of Iok-Sotot.

In Peter Hogan and Chris Sprouse ˜s America’s Best Comics limited series, Tom Strong & the Robots of Doom, Albrecht Strong, the Nazi son of Tom Strong, uses the symbol as his own when he overwrites the timestream with his own worldwide neo-Nazi empire.

The symbol is used on the cover of the novel The Black Sun by James Twining[49] and is mentioned extensively, although the cover image is not strictly the same “ it faces in the wrong direction. The symbol is also used on the cover of the fiction novel “Black Order” byJames Rollins and is mentioned extensively therein.

In the Outlanders novel, Satan’s Seed by Mark Ellis, the Brotherhood of the Black Sun andAleister Crowley use geomancy to travel through time. It features in the novel Swastika byMichael Slade.

In the occult-Nazi thriller Die Schwarze Sonne von Tashi Lhunpo (The Black Sun of Tashi Lhunpo) by Russell McCloud (Stephan Mögle-Stadel[7] in 1991, the assassinations of the president of the European Bank and a leading member of the UN Security Council are linked by a brand mark of the symbol of the Black Sun on the foreheads of the victims. McCloud is the first writer to identify the Wewelsburg sun wheel with the Black Sun myth (ofWilhelm Landig), thereby indicating the esoteric influence of Wiligut and the SS heritage and Aryan-theosophical lore at the heart of Himmler’s imaginative world. Arun-VerlaginEngerda (in the former German Democratic Republic) have published further editions and a film script of the book.

The book Unheilige Allianzen by Christian Dornbusch and Hans-Peter Killguss discusses the symbol.[50]The symbol is also used on the book cover for the 2011 novel Order of the Black Sun by Jack Follett, which features a secret nazi base in New Swabia in Antarcticaas one of the settings in the occult tech-thriller.[51]

The Jayne Heller book series by Daniel Abraham writing under the name M.L.N. Hanover features a semi-benevolent spirit who possesses the protagonist, calling itself “Sonnenrad, the Black Sun’s Daughter.” It is described as a Prince of Hell, but its intentions are ambiguous and may not be evil.

The Wewelsburg design is used in the artwork of musical groups from the Neo-Nazi subculture and other bands using Nazi aesthetics, e. g. for shock value. It is used as well as in the in lyrics of the experimental music groups Coil who released a song called Solar Lodge, found on the album Scatology, containing the lyrics “See the black sun rise from theSolar Lodge“, Death in JuneVon Thronstahl and as the title of a song by Dead Can Danceand E Nomine.[52]

Gotos=Kalanda (1995) by Allerseelen is adapted from Wiligut’s pagan calendar cycle of poems presented to Himmler in 1937. The Wewelsburg Black Sun is prominent on Petak’s letterhead and the Allerseelen label.[5][53]

In the 2009 video game Wolfenstein by Id Software, the Black Sun was actually another dimension. In the game, the Nazis try to uncover the secrets of the Thule people, an ancient civilization that discovered how to enter the Black Sun dimension through the use of portals. The main protagonist, a secret agent called William “B.J.” Blazkowicz, tries to prevent the Nazis from entering the dimension who try to build a super weapon to win the war. The main character took an ancient artifact from a Nazi dig site showing similar symbolism related to that of the black sun symbol.

In the movie Iron sky the black sun symbol represents the dark side of the moon which hides the secret base of the Nazis, the symbol is seen numerous times.

 

….Top Royal Air Force officer comes clean

http://redfern-files.blogspot.com/2012/01/mr-janus-comes-calling.html

Interesting comments above, and I understand the skeptics.

However, many aliens are human, yes, it is as simple as that, advanced over us by centuries, and this is hidden by our governments, which lie about everything else ” so why not about this, the biggest of all coverups?

Earth is a beautiful planet at a strategic location and has been colonized by waves of migrants, settlers, and war refugees from a number of planets, all hosting different kinds of human life.

We ourselves descend from these “aliens” ” and so the very word “alien” in the sense of “scary little men with antennae/slanted eyes” is loaded in negative way.

Most aliens (54 species) are not Greys, Reptiles or other humanoids (with one head, two arms and legs); they are full humans who eat food, have sex, make babies, get old and die. Some are noble in their intentions,

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others neutral (going about their business, including mining and tanking up on hydrogen) and a few are nasty, just as humans are here.

And when they warn us about nuclear war, it is because they use this earth too, and they know that earth has been thrown back into the Stone Age before by nuclear war, and each atomic explosion harms others in the galaxy.

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Earth is a truck stop used by many, and a huge amount of activity goes on underwater, under the ocean floor, and under mountain ranges and deserts.

This is an actual Google Earth shot (type in the coordinates yourself ” 34.0811763-119.0307411) of a giant, teardrop-shaped base off Malibu, California

 

I would refer you to my article: https://johndenugent.com/ufos-the-third-reich-after-1945-and-the-pleiadians/

 

I served in Marine Corps intelligence and graduated with a science degree from Georgetown University in 1981, Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude.

 

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Phi Beta Kappa: Top ten percent of the class ” in the top universities with many science-course requirements

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