Peeling the onion down to the actual Jesus, enemy of Judaism

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Ten things that the beloved Jesus never even taught, but some in this world twisted for their own benefit:

1. That his vision for a transformed society, got twisted into escapism — into various fantasies about heaven.
2. That a religion was formed to worship His name, instead of a movement to advance His message.
3. That the gospel says his death solved the problem of humankind’s separation from God, instead of accepting that his life revealed the truth that there is no separation from God.
4. That the religion bearing His name was conceived by the theories and doctrines of Paul, instead of the truths Jesus lived and demonstrated.
5. That he was said to exclusively be God in the flesh, putting His example out of reach, rather than teaching that we all share in the same spirit that empowered His character and life.
6. That the religion that claims His name, teaches that His wisdom and teachings are the only legitimate way to know truth and God.
7. The idea that humankind stands condemned before God and deserving of Divine wrath and eternal conscious judgement, requiring the death of Jesus to fix it.
8. That people are waiting on Jesus to return to save the world and end suffering, rather than taking our own responsibility for saving the world and solving suffering ourselves.
9. That people think there is magical potency in uttering the name of Jesus, rather than accessing our own inner power of “kingdom of heaven” within and capabilities to effect change.
10. That people have come to associate Jesus with church, theology, politics and power, rather than courage, justice, humanity, beauty and love.
– Jim Palmer

How about putting the f–king fire out?!?! Nobody had a coat in December in New York to wrap her in, get her on the ground, and smother the flames burning this white woman?

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How about thinking about heaven less, and fighting the evil ones MORE?

Daneille Beaudelaire

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I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me…..John 14:6.  This is by far only another twist or misinterpretation of a religion, like most coming from a human mind to a fit human sensibility

John De Nugent

Daneille Beaudelaire John came decades after Paul took over Christianity. The current order of the books in the New Testament is very misleading. FIRST came various epistles by Paul (or purportedly by him), and they influenced the Gospels, which were put together decades later based on the stories going around of what Jesus said and did, especially as interpreted by Paul.
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Via Paul, Jesus gets “promotion after promotion,” going from a charismatic preacher who was born the normal way to his parents — to being a rabbi, then to being the Messiah (literally a king of the juze; instead of crowning a king with a golden hoop onn his head, the juze would pour oil on his head, making him “anointed” — the word for that being “Messiah” in Hebrew or “Christos” in Greek).
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Then Jesus becomes “the Son of God” ….and finally ends up as God the Son, born of a Virgin.
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(The Gospel of Mark, the earliest gospel, says nothing about Jesus being born of a virgin. It starts when his cousin, John the Baptist, baptizes Him. Why would a biography of Jesus leave out the virgin birth — that God was His father —  and the part about the angel coming to Mary and then to Joseph, if those stories were being spread and taken seriously by Jesus’ earliest followers? https://biblehub.com/nkjv/mark/1.htm
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Also, in Mark the forgiveness of sins comes from admitting our sins to God and repenting (https://biblehub.com/mark/1-4.htm), and NOT from what Paul said, NOT from believing that Jesus’ death on a cross and in His physical resurrection are what save us.
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And so John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
A less literal translation:
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New Living Translation
This messenger was John the Baptist. He was in the wilderness and preached that people should be baptized to show that they had repentedof their sins and turned to God to be forgiven.
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Ths is why Jesus’ story of the prodigal son (who blew his entire inheritance from his dad on parties, booze, and wild women) is so central.  The father is God, and the son is us. The son is mortified and ashamed, saying “let me be a servant; I am not worthy to be your son.” THEREFORE the father forgives him and takes him back into the family.
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In other words, does a belief ABOUT Jesus save us, or does doing God’s will and repenting when we mess up?
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Paul took the Jesus message in a whole different direction, and many scholars say HE founded Christianity as it is known today as a religion ABOUT Jesus, not as the religion OF Jesus.
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In fact, Paul hardly ever quotes from Jesus! He seems to not even be very familiar with the man’s teachings!
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Opinion

Guest Essay

Why Jesus Never Stopped Asking Questions

Christ used questions to enter more fully into the lives of others and to help people look at the state of their hearts.Credit…Hulton Fine Art Collection, via Getty Images

Mr. Wehner, who served in various roles in the three Republican administrations before the Trump administration, is a contributing Opinion writer. He attends McLean Presbyterian Church in McLean, Va.

Malcolm Muggeridge, the renowned 20th-century social critic and British journalist, was an unlikely convert to Christianity. For most of his life, he was an agnostic; faith for him was “infinitely unattainable.” But attain it he did, late in life, and in 1975 he wrote, “The coming of Jesus into the world is the most stupendous event in human history.”

Twenty centuries after his birth, Jesus still holds a revered place in the hearts of billions of people. I am among them. I imagine that it has influenced almost every area of my life, like food coloring dropped in water.

Among the things that have long fascinated people about Jesus and explain his enduring appeal is his method of dialogue and teaching. He asked a lot of questions and told a lot of stories in the form of parables. In fact, parables form about a third of Jesus’ recorded teachings. The Gospels were written decades after he died, so his questions and parables clearly left a deep impression on those who bore testimony to him.

Martin Copenhaver, a retired president of Andover Newton Theological School, claims in his book “Jesus Is the Question” that Jesus was more than 40 times as likely to ask a counter-question as answer one directly, and he was 20 times as likely to offer an indirect answer as a direct one. “Oh my soul, be prepared for the coming of the Stranger,” T.S. Eliot wrote in “The Rock.” “Be prepared for him who knows how to ask questions.”

Some of Jesus’ questions were rhetorical; others were meant to challenge or even provoke. In some cases, Jesus used questions to parry attacks by religious authorities who set traps for him. In others, he used questions to enter more fully into the lives of others and to help people look at the state of their hearts. He asked people about their fears and their faith. Jesus used questions to free a woman caught in adultery from condemnation and to inquire whether people considered him to be the Messiah. He probed deeply into questions not many had asked before him, like “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
Jesus liked to turn the tables on his interlocutors, especially those who were in the business of asking questions themselves. In Luke, an expert in the law asked Jesus, “Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” His reply took the form of not one question but two: “What is written in the law?” and “How do you read it?” But that’s hardly the end of the exchange. We’re told that this person wanted to justify himself; Jesus moved the conversation to a very different plane, from the abstract to the personal. When the lawyer asked, “Who is my neighbor?” Jesus asked what it meant to him to be a good neighbor. By the end of this cross-examination, Jesus had led his interlocutor — first through his questioning and then via the parable of the good Samaritan — to acknowledge that the person who is a good neighbor is the one who shows mercy. It is an astonishing interaction.

As for his use of parables, in “Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes” the theologian Kenneth Bailey wrote, Jesus “created meaning like a dramatist and a poet rather than like a philosopher.” The author refers to Jesus as a “metaphorical theologian” whose “primary method of creating meaning was through metaphor, simile, parable and dramatic action rather than through logic and reasoning.”

Jesus, when asked by his disciples in Matthew 13 why he spoke in parables, indicated that it was to reveal the truth to some and to hide the truth from others. He was willing to disclose the truth to those who were sincere but wanted to conceal it from people not willing to honestly wrestle with its meaning. Jesus also clearly understood the power of stories to make his words more memorable by making them more personal.

“Arguments may form our opinions, but stories form our loves,” Cherie Harder, the president of the Trinity Forum, told me. She added, “Stories ask us to enter another world — which usually has the result of broadening or disrupting our own.”

With his puzzles and paradoxes, Jesus is trusting our discernment, knowing that the Bible includes contrasting approaches on matters ranging from why people suffer to keeping the Sabbath to how we should treat our enemies. As the theologian Kenton Sparks put it, “At face value, Scripture does not seem to furnish us with one divine theology; it gives us numerous theologies.”

I wonder, too, if Jesus, in telling parables, might have had in mind what Emily Dickinson described when she wrote, “Tell all the Truth but tell it slant/Success in Circuit lies.” So much more so when she closes her poem by saying, “The Truth must dazzle gradually/Or every man be blind.”

Kerry Dearborn, a professor emerita of theology at Seattle Pacific, told me that in terms of the ways in which Jesus communicated, “I’m convinced he used questions and stories as a means of connection and transformation — to awaken us, to whet our appetites, to invite us to draw nearer, that we might open up more fully to God and to God’s purposes in and for us.”

“With his use of everyday elements of life, people felt seen,” Ms. Dearborn added. “With his powerful depictions of a father who loves prodigals, tax collectors and Samaritans, people were comforted and felt safe enough to follow him. And hearing stories of the ways in which God stands on the side of the oppressed, people would know they could trust this God of both justice and love.”

Mr. Yancey went on to point out in so many places, Jesus makes it impossible for us to conclude, “I’m OK. I can relax.” Whether it’s Jesus’ teachings on anger or lust or his command that we be perfect as his father in heaven is perfect, “no one can reach that place of spiritual superiority that Jesus holds out, which was his point, exactly. We don’t earn God’s grace; we receive it.”

William Fullilove, a pastor at McLean Presbyterian Church, where I worship, put it to me this way: “Jesus was after our hearts, not just our minds. He was after lives changed, not just intellects grown.”

Jesus used stories, then, but he was also part of a story, one that contains thousands of characters and unexpected twists and turns, different genres (poetry, prophecy, epistles, wisdom literature) and countless subplots. But the Bible is also, above all, a meta-narrative — the unfolding of a story God has entered, most conspicuously in the person of Jesus, a drama that has purpose and direction. That has been, at least for some of us, a source of comfort, especially in moments of grief and great pain.

Kate Bowler, an associate professor at Duke Divinity School who was diagnosed with Stage 4 colon cancer at the age of 35, told me, “Jesus’ tender birth and violent death leave the problem of suffering unanswered until the end of days. We must learn to live and die in the not-yetness of suffering and empire, fear and uncertainty. But our questioning hearts in the face of evil is not an affront to faith. Jesus simply says: Wait. All will be revealed.”

Mark Labberton, the president of Fuller Theological Seminary, explained to me that trauma is like broken glass — shards in our lives that can randomly and repeatedly cut us inside. The trauma needs to be named and gradually integrated into a person’s life, and if possible, for those who are able, it helps for the trauma to be put in the context of being part of a larger story. For some people, that larger story need not have a faith component; they are able to create meaning without it. But for others, having their trauma understood not as a random, awful event but rather as a very difficult chapter in a larger and ultimately redemptive story can be life-giving.

Christmas is meaningful, for those of us of the Christian faith, because it situates each of our lives — the joys and the sorrows, the hope and the despair, the dramatic and the mundane — in a larger narrative: Not only did God author it; the son of God became a protagonist within it.

11 Comments

  1. I had an Indian christian woman give a me a leaflet on christianity, and i threw it out.
    I will be happy to die an atheist.
    I saw the beginning of Netanyahus speech on jewtube.
    Their were christians saying we love you and your people, and god bless you.
    Hating someone is a normal emotion and all christians should hate jews for slaughtering hundreds of millions of christians and sacrificing their children to baal, moloch.
    You crush and destroy your enemies and never stop fighting.
    You avenge your people who have been tortured sacrificed and slaughtered by jews.
    Most christians cannot condemm or criticise jews because that would be condemming their religion.
    When their hoping to spend eternity with a jewish god.
    I only have respect for buddism and roman paganism.

  2. Without christianity i don’t think that cultural marxism would have taken off. Christianity is not nationalist like European paganism.
    Which is honest that it’s mythology.

    I think that evolution and biology should be taught in schools and our pagan roots and our heritage.
    Too many white christians worship jews and think their living gods.

  3. Nessun bambino dovrebbe soffrire le pene dell’inferno, in ospedale, a Gaza, negli angoli del mondo.
    I nordici provano la stessa vergogna che provo io tutte le volte.
    Gli ebrei “accendono il Fuoco” e i Gentili li accompagnano.
    “Tutti i medici che hanno scoperto un’enzima che nutre i tumori” in tutte le vaccinazioni pediatriche sono stati uccisi o bannati e stavano rendendo pubblica questa scoperta.E noi ce la prendiamo sempre con Dio, con Gesù, con i Santi.
    Mi vergogno.

  4. Aus dem ‘Politikversagen’ vom heutigen Tage:

    Die Eltern vom kleinen André, der beim Terroranschlag am Magdeburger Weihnachtsmarkt vom Araber Taleb A. totgerast wurde, haben ein Video hochgeladen, das sprachlos macht: Darin beschreiben Andrés Mama und sein Stiefvater, wie sehr sie sich vom Staat im Stich gelassen fühlen. Und, dass sie seit Tagen nicht zu ihrem toten Kind gelassen werden!

    Weiterlesen auf nius.de, und zwar:

    Taleb A. tötete ihren Sohn (9) auf dem Magdeburger Weihnachtsmarkt: Die herzzerreißende Abrechnung der Eltern mit diesem Staat

    https://www.nius.de/gesellschaft/news/taleb-a-toetete-ihren-sohn-9-auf-dem-magdeburger-weihnachtsmarkt-die-herzzerreissende-abrechnung-der-eltern-mit-diesem-staat/7481aba6-b20c-4a42-aa23-e3e8fc96365e

    (Auszug)

    Es ist ein herzzerreißendes Video. Und sie wollen, dass es alle sehen! Die Eltern vom kleinen André, der beim Terroranschlag am Magdeburger Weihnachtsmarkt vom Araber Taleb A. totgerast wurde, haben auf TikTok ein Statement hochgeladen, das sprachlos macht: Darin beschreiben Andrés Mama Désirée Gleißner und sein Stiefvater Patrick Sommer, wie sehr sie sich vom Staat im Stich gelassen fühlen. Und, dass sie seit Tagen nicht zu ihrem toten Kind gelassen werden!

    Sehen Sie das Video hier in voller Länge:

    (Das/der dreiminütige Video/Aufruf ist auf der Seite des Bloggers namens nius.de eingebettet)

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    Anamnese Dr. Conti: Heute muß davon ausgegangen werden, daß die Mutter des kleinen Jungen Leo Stettin, der hinterrücks von einem Neger, zusammen mit seiner Mutter, in einem Bahnhof der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, ins Gleisbett vor einen einfahrenden Zug (ICE) geworfen respektive geschubst wurde, nicht nur nicht ihren Sohn bestatten durfte, sondern nicht einmal von seinem Leichnam Abschied nehmen durfte. Ein schlichtes Holzkreuz erinnert heute an Leo, auf einer kargen Grabstätte platziert – John de Nugent hat über dieses tragische Schicksal auf seiner hiesigen Seite berichtet.

    Die Eltern des kleinen André, der auf dem Weihnachtsmarkt in Magdeburg von einem Araber mit einem Kraftfahrzeug zu Tode gerast wurde, spüren, daß ihnen das gleiche Schicksal droht, das der armen Mutter des kleinen Leo widerfahren ist: das letztlich von den politisch verantwortlichen des Staates gewaltsam zu Tode gebrachte Kind, soll ohne Abschied, klammheimlich, in der heimischen Erde verscharrt werden – die Eltern bitten ausdrücklich um Verbreitung ihres Videos beziehungsweise Aufrufs.

    • Danke. Das werde ich auf meiner Website nun weiterverbreiten.

      Gerade das Töten eines Kindes is entsetzlich, und daher für den Kampf um die Volksaufklärung von Nutzen.

      Und auch in Amerika geht das Morden gegen unschuldige Weiße weiter.

      Oder ich füge dem Wort “unschuldig” lieber Gänsefüßchen hinzu. Wer die Wirklichkeit leugnet, sie sogar bekämpft (!), oder sie achselzuckend hinnimmt, jedoch nichts tut, und tapfere Aktivisten lieber eifersüchtig kritisiert, ist keineswegs ganz unschuldig, und in diese Kategorien fallen 80% der Weißen. Daher schafften wir 1933 als weltfremd die Demokratie ab.

      Nebenbei erwähnt gäbe es 100prozentig ohne einen großen Magdeburger gar kein Amerika, sondern eine arme Rohstoffkolonie eines arroganten und ausbeuterischen Großbritanniens:

      Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben

  5. Aus dem ‘Politikversagen’ vom heutigen Tage, und zwar:

    10 Tote bei Terroranschlag in Neu Orleans: Täter hatte IS-Flagge an seinem Auto befestigt

    VSA. Beim Täter von Neu Orleans soll es sich um den 42-jährigen Shamsud Din Jabbar handeln. Vor seiner Amokfahrt, bei der er zu den Neujahrsfeierlichkeiten zehn Menschen tötete und 35 verletzte, soll er eine Fahne des IS an sein Auto befestigt haben.

    Weiterlesen auf apollo-news.net, und zwar:

    https://apollo-news.net/10-tote-in-new-orleans-auto-faehrt-in-menschenmenge/

    (Auszug)

    Berichten aus den Vereinigten Staaten zufolge raste ein Auto, in Neu Orleans, im US-Bundesstaat Louisiana, in eine Menschenmenge. Das ganze geschah im Ausgehviertel der Südstaatenmetropole, dem French Quarter. Laut offiziellen Angaben kamen mindestens zehn Menschen ums Leben, während 35 Verletzte in umliegende Krankenhäuser gebracht wurden.

    Der Vorfall ereignete sich gegen 3.15 Uhr am Neujahrsmorgen. Nachdem der Mann in die Menschenmenge gefahren ist, sprang der mutmaßliche Täter aus dem Fahrzeug, einem weißen Pick-up-Truck und begann, mit einer Waffe auf die Anwesenden zu schießen. Die Polizei erwiderte das Feuer. Der Lokalsender WGNO meldete, daß der mutmaßliche Täter im Schußwechsel getötet wurde.

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    Auto rast in New Orleans in Menschen, Bürgermeisterin spricht von Terroranschlag

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tus-ozuynk&pp=ygUfQXV0byByYXN0IGluIGZlaWVybmRlIE1lbnNjaGVuIA%3D%3D

    (Die Länge des Berichts beträgt 3/4 Minute)

  6. – Nachtrag zu meinem vorherigen Beitrag –

    Uuupps – der Aufruf der Eltern wurde von ‘youtube’ gesperrt, ist nicht mehr einsehbar.

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