The material in this interview of Simon Roche in South Africa by me is so extraordinary and “mind-blowing” that it really needs an introduction so you realize this is not just crazy talk, but quite real.
In particular, people need to understand the real history of Germany since WWII, which actually has never ended. Only the German Army and Navy surrendered in 1945, not the German Reich government. This is why there is no peace treaty to this day between Germany on the one hand and the US, Russia, France and Britain on the other. The Third Reich, Hitler’s Reich, still exists, but lacks the power to openly take on its enemies, and, lacking other alternatives, is waiting grimly for America and Russia to destroy themselves in WWIII. Then it will re-emerge openly for all the world to see.
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There is no question whatsoever for me that the Third Reich, knowing it would probably lose the war, evacuated its top scientists in over 50 U-boats between 1943-45 down to the Antarctic, equipped with the German invention of the snorkel (to get air in to the crew while staying submerged for thousands of miles).
https://www.livescience.com/62350-sunken-nazi-submarine-found-denmark.html Note the final sentence: “Many of the original 118 Type XXI submarines were captured and dismantled after the end of the war, but countless others still remain missing.”
(Hitler did kill himself to fool the Americans that the “Nazi danger” was over, and because the remnant of the Reich did not really need politicians like him, just scientists and generals, to survive underground.)
Excellent video by Robert Sepehr:
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssO12u2DxD4
This Reich (which has only five million citizens now) is not strong enough to challenge the US, NATO and Russia, just protect itself, and it has the nuclear weapons and other technologies to destroy any attacker.
BUT IT CANNOT RESCUE US.
Look at this testimony by Russian air force generals in uniform. Does this general look like he’s “kidding”? Or that “Nazis” with super-weapons is a laughing matter to him?
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw
…..The 1917 Van Rensburg prophecy of three world wars — and a German final victory (but over a world in ashes 
) — marches toward its fulfillment. Britain betrays America, Turkey betrays Russia, Russia invades Europe to “get in the first blow” and “horror bombs” go off. Then the Reich Germans use heavy weapons that were carefully pre-buried in several countries to take over.
…..The 1917 Van Rensburg prophecy of three world wars — and a German final victory (but emerging into a world in ashes ) marches toward its fulfillment. Britain betrays America, Turkey betrays Russia, Russia invades Europe to “get in the first blow” and “horror bombs” go off.
Previous interview with Simon Roche.
https://johndenugent.com/english/simon-roche-south-africa-the-coming-all-out-race-war-certain-germans-to-the-rescue-trump-wwiii-and-the-visions-of-the-prophet-nicholas-van-rensburg-100-years-ago
According to the 1917 prophecy of the militant Boer Nicholas van Rensburg, after a black becomes president of South Africa ( = Mandela) and later a black likewise becomes the president of the United States ( = Obama), and recall that back in 1917 such notions seemed absurd and even unimaginable), with the black US president described as “a black boy,” THEN a male, white, older conservative will take over the reins of the state. He will have “hair like a wig,” constantly frown, and he will end up (against his will?) waging a catastrophic war against Russia.
Russia will be destroyed, and some European countries as well, especially England, which will break its alliance with the United States and therefore will be abandoned by them. Not one Englishman will survive, van Rensburg predicts.
Germans and Boers in South Africa will be the only major white survivors of this useless war that will destroy the entire northern hemisphere of our planet.
They will build together a new white empire in Africa, which will have remained unscathed from the Third World War, and these two very tough, smart, warlike white peoples with no racial illusions will crush without mercy any black people who oppose them..
As far as the Germans are concerned, as I have explained many times on my website, Adolf Hitler ordered, after the great defeat at Stalingrad, the evacuation of elite German scientists and military to Antarctica. They have huge under-ice military bases there, and also in the Andes mountain range, in a kind of existence like a badger, protected in their lairs, but not daring to wage war on the United States or Russia (on neither Soviet Russia nor that of Putin).
What are his prophecies about the Tribe, who are certainly our worst enemy?
He did not mention them. He was a fervent Calvinist Christian, thus a typical Boer, and not anti-Semitic. Like all Boers, he hated especially the English (who had killed two of his daughters in Lord Kitchener’s horrible concentration camps), and he loved and admired the Germans. He prophesied that the Germans would lose two world wars but win, that is, survive — alone — the third one.
Hitler himself said “Das letzte Battalion wird ein deutsches sein.” (“The last battalion will be German.”) This becomes understandable only if one accepts the reality of the military “Absetzbewegung” of 1943-45, the “disengagement movement”.
According to the 1917 prophecy of the militant Boer Nicholas van Rensburg,
after a black becomes president of South Africa ( = Mandela) and later a black likewise becomes the president of the United States ( = Obama), and recall that back in 1917 such notions seemed absurd and even unimaginable), with the black US president described as “a black boy,” THEN a male, white, older conservative will take over the reins of the state. He will have “hair like a wig,” constantly frown, and he will end up (against his will?) waging a catastrophic war against Russia.
Russia will be destroyed, and some European countries as well, especially England, which will break its alliance with the United States and therefore will be abandoned by them. Not one Englishman will survive, van Rensburg predicts.
Germans and Boers in South Africa will be the only major white survivors of this useless war that will destroy the entire northern hemisphere of our planet.
They will build together a new white empire in Africa, which will have remained unscathed from the Third World War, and these two very tough, smart, warlike white peoples with no racial illusions will crush without mercy any black people who oppose them..
As far as the Germans are concerned, as I have explained many times on my website, Adolf Hitler ordered, after the great defeat at Stalingrad, the evacuation of elite German scientists and military to Antarctica. They have huge under-ice military bases there, and also in the Andes mountain range, in a kind of existence like a badger, protected in their lairs, but not daring to wage war on the United States or Russia (on neither Soviet Russia nor that of Putin).
What are his prophecies about the Tribe, who are certainly our worst enemy?
He did not mention them. He was a fervent Calvinist Christian, thus a typical Boer, and not anti-Semitic. Like all Boers, he hated especially the English (who had killed two of his daughters in Lord Kitchener’s horrible concentration camps), and he loved and admired the Germans. He prophesied that the Germans would lose two world wars but win, that is, survive — alone — the third one.
Hitler himself said “Das letzte Battalion wird ein deutsches sein.” (“The last battalion will be German.”) This becomes understandable only if one accepts the reality of the military “Absetzbewegung” of 1943-45, the “disengagement movement”.
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.https://johndenugent.com/images/JdN-Simon-Roche-Van-Rensburg-Part-1-of-2.mp3
.https://johndenugent.com/images/JdN-Simon-Roche-Van-Rensburg-Part-2-of-2.mp3
[Resistance Radio Intro Music:] “Resist. Revolt. Reconquer. Resistance Radio”
“This is Jack Sen, co-founder of Resistance Radio. You’re listening to ‘A Masculine Renaissance’ with John de Nugent.”
[Jack Sen]
JdN: Hello, Simon Roche in South Africa! This is John de Nugent with Resistance Radio. How are you today?
SR: Well, thank you! And yourself, John?
JdN: I’m doing well. We’re still having lots of snow on the ground up here on Lake Superior, but it’s sunny; we have a blue sky, and it’s a beautiful white landscape. 😉
Upper Peninsula of Michigan with Lake Superior, up on the Canadian border 500 miles north of Chicago and Detroit
We love it up here!
[The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is 98% white and often blond-haired, from the many whites whose ancestors came Sweden, Germany and Finland. (There are also many Dutch in Lower Michigan.)]
SR: I’m sure that you do. I’ve been to Michigan, [down south in] Central Michigan. Nevertheless, it’s a beautiful part of the world.
JdN: It certainly is. And up here we have a 99-percent white, law-abiding, peaceful, friendly population. Very little crime.
So it’s just like South Africa. right? 😉
SR: Hardly, I’m afraid! 😉
JdN: I know the news seems to be [bad], since we did an interview last year about the Southlanders (in Afrikanans, the “Suidlanders”) your organization, and what the situation is for the white South Africans.
And we also talked about the [1917] prophecy of Nicholas Van Rensburg.
This is all back in June of last year — 2017.
Since then the black president of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, who was already terrible [enough], is gone.
And now you have a new, and even worse president, if such a thing can be imagined! [Cyril] “Ra-ma-ph-osa?
Nelson Mandela with Cyril Ramaphosa
[Wiki: He owns a luxury mansion at the foot of Lion’s Head in Cape Town. Ramaphosa is known to be one of the richest people in South Africa, with an estimated net worth of more than US$450,000,000 and has appeared in financial magazines such as Forbes Africa and Bloomberg.]
SR: [like] Rama-po-sa — you do not pronounce the “h.” So it’s just “Ramaposa.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Ramaphosa
JdN: Uh, okay. And he’s also “ANC” [ = “African National Congress” — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_National_Congress It has been in power since 1994 as a kind of one-party black dictatorship. The whites were 20% but are now just 8% of the population.]
SR: Yes.
JdN: …which is sort of a quasi-communist, black militant party.
You have also been disparaged, to my great disappointment, by your fellow white man down there in South Africa — Jan Lamprecht.
SR: Yes.
JdN: As I say, for ten years he’s put out excellent information. He’s actually a Rhodesian.
SR: Yes.
JdN: but like many people [almost all the whites, but also many blacks] he moved to South Africa, and he’s put out great work on the racial situation.
He’s had several websites and many friends in the United States.
Unfortunately he started attacking you, as I said to you when I invited you to come back on my radio show, since June of last year.
All these hair raising things which you said to me about the racial situation in South Africa have all come true and everything you’ve said about the incredible prophecy of Nicholas Van Rensburg in the year 1917 has also come true.
And so I’m very impressed by that.
I have defended you against the accusations of Jan Lamprecht.
And so I’d like to welcome you back to the show.
I think you’ve been vindicated with everything that you said to me last year in the two shows we did, both about your own country — what’s going on there — and [also] about this seemingly very weird prophecy by this almost illiterate Boer farmer 100 years ago, predicting three world wars, Germany losing the first two of them, and then some guy who is like a scowling, stern-looking conservative and he comes to power….
…replacing a “black boy” as President of the United States.
And, strangely, he gets a war going with Russia — which makes no sense, because Russia was very friendly to Trump, as all conservative, nationalistic people were.
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Putin calls Trump an “agent provocateur” (a person who joins a cause to deliberately make it look bad) https://www.rt.com/news/427818-purin-spief-best-quotes/
Russian boomer sub launches 4 ICBMs in 20 seconds in successful missile test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=86
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It was the last thing you thought would happen would be Trump looking for a war with Russia!
So you’ve been vindicated as far as I am concerned.
NICOLAAS PIETER JOHANNES VAN RENSBURG (1862 – 1926)
The Boer Prophet
During the last quarter of the previous century and the first twenty five years of this century, there probably was no-one more famous than Uncle Niklaas van Rensburg, the well-loved prophet (seer).This simple Boer pioneer possessed the supernatural gift to see into the future – the immediate and distant future – in the form of visual images. He could interpret some of these visions correctly, but many others he could not explain.
Due to this extraordinary God-given gift family members, acquaintances and strangers, even from distant places, visited him with the expectation that he would be able to help them with their problems. He always received them humbly and with modest friendliness and let them leave satisfied.
Boer prophet Nikolaas van Rensburg
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He was born on the farm Rietkuil near Ottosdal (then still the farm Korannafontein) on 30 August 1862. There he grew up with his brothers and sisters. Since he was small he was unpretentious and listened attentively to stories from the Bible when his mother read it to him. She cherished high expectations of him as his knowledge of the Bible was surprisingly good.As shepherd he even took the Bible with him to the veld to read there and to immerse himself in the affairs of old Biblical figures and prophets.
Already from a young age he exhibited prophetical powers and especially surprised his mother.
At the age of sixteen he had to participate in a punishment expedition against Bantu captain, Mapog. He contracted malaria fever and escaped death narrowly.
Due to his extraordinary knowledge of the Bible he was appointed at the age of 21 as elder of the NG Congregation Wolmaranstad (1883). Shortly thereafter he was married to Annie Coetzee in 1884.
After the outbreak of the Anglo Boer War 1899, he and his brother were commanded under Gen. du Toit.
Early, in the first days of the war, Niklaas saw burning Boer residences, woman and children that were murdered. That hellish night he was in an inner conflict and had to return to his farm Rietkuil to recuperate.
After this, the strange visions increased, often he warned the Boer commandos against enemy forces and other visions that literally came true. His co-burghers were convinced that he could see into the future and they started to speak of “Siener van Rensburg”, or “Die Siener” (the seer) and of “Die Profeet” (the prophet).
The burghers believed that God gave them a prophet to assist them in their struggle against the enemy.
He did not stay with one commando, but moved from one place to another with his family and everywhere he was a welcome guest.
Gen. Koos de la Rey also got to know this exceptional man, befriended him and also believed in him as seer, a prophet given to the Boer nation by God. He was never captured and went through the whole war.
Already in 1911 he felt the next World War approaching and he revealed it to Comdt. Lucas Steenkamp in Lichtenburg first. He also predicted the rebellion of 1914 and the flu epidemic of 1918. During the rebellion he accompanied Gen. Jan Kemp and often acted as advisor and always pointed the safe road out to the rebel commando. He saw the end of the rebel commando and many other smaller events that happened exactly so.
He also saw the death of Gen. Koos de la Rey. He came to Lichtenburg especially to look up the old general and to warn him. In the specific vision he saw the number “15”, the general without a hat, many flowers, a mourning robe over Lichtenburg, a crowd of people, flags half-mast… (De la Rey, Lion of the West – J. Meintjies p. 320 – 324)
He had visions of major activities in Lichtenburg where red dust clouds arose (diggings), diamonds that this sons took out, the victory of the National Party 1924, the depression of 1930 – 32, the symbolic Ox wagon trek, and dozens of visions of events that would happen in the future without him being able to explain it.
The elder he got, the more lonely he was. Many of his later visions were committed to paper by his daughter, Mrs. Anna Badenhorst of Rietkuil, the family farm – two exercise books full.
Nicolaas Pieter Johannes van Rensburg died on 11 March 1926, at the age of 64. [end]
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SR: Look, it’s a complicated thing, and we can’t be certain of everything that Siener [Afrikaans for “Seer”] Van Rensburg prophesied, because the prophecies fall into three broad categories, namely [1] those that were self-evident, or which he explained himself, [2] those which apparently are decipherable, apparently understandable, but not certainly, and [3] those that are completely abstruse or obscure.
So I hesitate to say that we are absolutely clear — but you are correct to say that, so far, much of what is being predicted has definitely, without a doubt, come true.
JdN: I made this point many times. I’ve done at least 12 or 15 blogs, bringing up my original two blogs, my interviews with you. The first one about South Africa and your Southlanders organization [designed] to help evacuate white people if and when a race war breaks out, and then the second interview, the Nicholas Van Rensburg prophecies.
I’ve made it clear that he spoke in sort of vague terms, but the stuff he said — and he was laughed at when he said in 1917 — that was the heyday of the second Ku Klux Klan in the United States,
…and you had some apartheid [racial segregation in South Africa] under the British [rule] already, and later on, you had much more apartheid in the late 1940s when the National Party came to power.
Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd 1958-66
The idea of a black president of either America or South Africa [seemed] ludicrous [to everyone] at that time.
But Van Rensburg was right.
The dominant president 100 years ago was Woodrow Wilson — who grew up in the South, in Virginia.
He was very anti-black. He resegregated the U.S. Post Office, which was and is one of the biggest employers of people in the American federal government, the U.S. Post Office — after [president] Teddy Roosevelt had desegregated it.
Republican President Theodore Roosevelt with the black leader, Booker T. Washington
He wanted to get the vote from the blacks. The blacks were voting Republican 100 years ago because [President Abraham] Lincoln [who freed the blacks from slavery] was a Republican. He had freed the slaves[.
[President] Woodrow Wilson re-segregated the U.S. Post Office.
You then had the [1915] lynching of Leo Frank and the rise of the Knights of Mary Fagan, which led to the second Ku Klux Klan.
Leo Frank was a Jewish businessman, head of B’nai B’rith of Atlanta, and child molester
…..who raped and killed a 13-year-old female employee, Mary Phagan, https://johndenugent.com/category/mary-phagan-leo-frank/
and was lynched by the Knights of Mary Phagan.
The Ku Klux Klan was booming in the late teens in the early 1920s. They passed laws restricting immigration in the early 1920s, and so forth and so on.
So for Van Rensburg to predict that America would ever have a black president — he was laughed at, at that time, for saying it.
SR: Yes.
JdN: And so he was, you know, well, I respect a man like that, because I’m laughed at, too. And you’re laughed at. And so is anybody who doesn’t conform and says a shocking truth. People will laugh at you. And he was laughed at. And he was derided.
People said, well, his prophecies during the [Second] Anglo-Boer War [1899-1902) seemed to be accurate…
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlHqKJyo3GQ
….but this stuff about a black president of South Africa or a black president of America — it’s madness.
SR: Yes, yes!
That was exactly the case. That was what cost him his credibility [he had had] up until that point in time.
I’ve just been reading an article in preparation for this interview, reminding myself of certain things about Siener Van Rensburg, and refamiliarizing myself — and this author made the point that at that time, Siener was the most famous man in South Africa. He was a hero of the nation.
But he lost all of his credibility when he made the prediction that there would be a black president in South Africa.
JdN: Really?
SR: And, lo and behold, it turned out to be true.
JdN: Wow.
I’m the object of a tremendous amount of defamation online [myself] because of some of my views [which] go beyond conservatism or the racial thing.
I’m very interested in life after death, and the topic of reincarnation.
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I also believe we’re not alone in the universe, we humans. More and more people are starting to believe that, but half the people still laugh at that notion.
Many people believe if you even believe in God, or if you believe in an afterlife, or in any of that, [then] you are a nut. They’re “scientists” and they are materialistic, and they are Darwinists.
So this is the lot of all who seek the truth — and we may not have the whole truth, but sometimes we open a can of worms.
I guess it must have been very shocking — the idea that a black man would ever be president of South Africa — that the whites would relinquish power — that seemed like insanity, which it was!
SR: Yes, yes. It was never going to happen. It was absolutely never going to happen.
JdN: And the White race was so supreme back then.
SR: You know, somebody asked me in an interview yesterday ‘what is the current popularity of Siener Van Rensburg?’
And I said to him in early 1900s it was phenomenal.
Then it declined.
Then it was resurgent again when some of his prophecies concerning [1] World War Two, and [2] concerning South Africa becoming a republic in 1960, coming out of the British Empire for the first time in 1960, [that is] since 1902, came true, so it was resurgent again, and then it tapered off.
And then when Nelson Mandela became president with the election of the ANC, on the 27th of April, 1994…
Nelson Mandela and Joe Slovo
…it became very much resurgent yet again, and it has since consistently escalated — to a point now when there is more talk about Siener van Rensburg than ever before.
I remember when I first started looking into Siener van Rensburg in about 2007 or -08, I had read a book about him prior to that, but I first started casting about for it on the Internet in about 2007, 2008 or 2009. And there were maybe, maybe one to three websites that covered him. Other than that you could find nothing.
I now have opened in front of me, on my computer, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 [Van Rensburg] websites and there probably are another 25 that deal with him.
JdN: Well, in times of trouble, people are interested in prophecies.
Somebody wrote me today on Facebook about the prophecies of “Nostradamus” about three Antichrists, and he had some interesting theories.
This is a time of crisis now because Donald Trump is, incredibly, threatening Syria, and threatening Russia which is just as mad as these other things that we’re talking about.
The idea that there would ever be a black president of America — I mean you have to remember that, in 1917, America was 89 percent white, and [a good] 89 percent of those 89 percent didn’t like black people. 😉
Most black people were poor, illiterate and uneducated, and the idea of a black president was just inconceivable. Even if they were educated, whites just didn’t like blacks. They didn’t want to be around them.
As blacks moved from the South of the United States after the American Civil War up to Chicago and Boston and New York and everywhere, the racial tensions skyrocketed up north. The Northern white cities also found out. They began to understand the Southern whites, because they didn’t get along with the blacks either.
So I have tremendous respect for Siener Van Rensburg.
Would you give us a little review for the sake of this interview who Van Rensburg was, and why he was anything but a scam artist, or a fake or a phony?
I think he was a very simple, believing, Christian man and farmer. And he never made any money off his prophecies, did he?
SR: No, not at all.
I should begin by saying that the first permanent white settlement of South Africa was begun on the 6th of April 1652 by Hollanders — Dutchmen.
Jan Van Riebeeck, Commander of the Dutch Cape Colony from 1652 to 1662
And they were later joined by Huguenots, French Protestants fleeing religious persecution in France. And they were then joined by German Lutheran soldiers — men only, give or take, more or less.
And those three groups of people became amalgamated into what later became known as the Afrikaner people, who occupied the region more or less around Cape Town and surrounding districts.
Size of South Africa compared to the United States
Capetown and the Table Mountain
Roodepoort
Durban Beach
The Cape Colony was then colonized by the British, and the British were very harsh on the Afrikaners and some of those people left that Cape Colony. They formed two new republics [to] the north[east] which became known as the Orange Free State, named for Prince William of Orange, who had stood firm against the power of Spain, and the South African Republic, colloquially referred to as the “Transvaal Republic.”
In other words “across the Vaal River,” so it was “the Republic Across the Vaal [River].”
And those people referred to themselves as “Boers,” meaning “farmers,” and “Trekboere,” meaning “pulling” farmers.
[JdN: the word “trek” is cognate with the English word “tractor” or the word “drag”].
They had pulled wagons with oxen across the veld [literally “field” in Dutch or Afrikaans] into the hinterland of Africa to where they had set up those two colonies.
So they were the “pulling farmers,” the “wagon farmers,” if you like.
JdN: I see.
SR: And so Siener Van Rensburg was one of these farmers. He was born in 1862. He died in 1926, so he lived to be 64 years of age, and from a young age he was quite a strange child. He had a faraway look in his eyes, and he was very quiet, very, very meek. He didn’t play with the other children. He wasn’t boisterous at all.
JdN: Well, let me just jump in for a second here…..
SR: He was so profound yet serious, and deep, that he was made an elder of the Dutch Reformed Church at the age of 21, which was unheard of, or was then, when the Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa was the Calvinist Church of the world — a very exceptional thing, but there you go.
And he then had numerous visions, particularly during the [Second] Anglo-Boer War, which ran from late 1899 to mid-1902.
He subsequently had many visions in the [South African] interwar period [1902-14], again during the First World War [1914-18], and again after the First World War [1918-26].
He was not illiterate — he could read — but he only received precisely 20 days of schooling before he to got back to the farm to help his father tend the sheep.
And so his mother taught him to read — from the Bible.
Later on he took a conscious decision to only ever read the Bible, and he never, ever read anything else, as a decision on his part. So he could read. He wasn’t “illiterate.” But he couldn’t write.
Therefore, when he had visions, he would either share them, then and there, with the people around him (or later on) …OR if there was somebody available who could write it down, particularly his daughter, Anna Badenhorst…..
***Anna Sophia Van Rensburg 1902-81, married name: Badenhorst
as an older lady
SR: [continued] And his son wrote down a few things. His son’s name was Kalle.
So that is Siener Van Rensburg in nutshell.
He had a number of … very outstanding visions … pertaining to [1] the future of South Africa, and [2] to three world wars, and [3] to certain events in the Northern Hemisphere, but largely from the point of view of South Africa.
So you had a whole series of visions concerning the USA and Europe — BUT they were given in the context of what will happen to South Africa, and when will it happen, and what will also be occurring in the rest of the world at that time.
JdN: I see. Well, let me just go back a little bit to the difference between “Afrikaner” and “Boer.”
My lady friend and I took in a half-Boer family, a mother and some kids, back in 2008. And I learned a lot.
Margaret Huffstickler and I in 2008 in Sarver, Pennsylvania
In other words, there were [first] the so-called Cape Dutch… When the British conquered Cape Town around the time of Napoleon, then because France controlled Holland, and France was at war with England, the [Brits decided to] view any Dutch colony as their enemy.
And that was the excuse — and so Britain conquered Capetown [from the Dutch].
Now some of the Cape Dutch decided to stay and live under British rule. They got used to it. I mean, the British and the Dutch had had lots of wars, so they weren’t friends. They weren’t buddies.
But they accommodated themselves, and they tried to get along. Others who were, shall we say, more hard-core, said
‘We don’t want to live under these Brits. We don’t like it. We’re leaving.’
And so they left Cape Town and went northeast, up, and away from the British, and created these two new republics. Is that correct?
SR: Yes, that’s correct. That’s correct!
JdN: It’s kind of like, you know, after the American Civil War — if a couple of million white Southerners, defeated Southerners …
…..left the United States, and, you know, went to Mexico — and created a little Confederate empire in part of Mexico.
They just left completely.
So it was not like they wanted conflict with England. They just left the British colony of Cape Town and they moved out to create their own countries.
SR: Yes.
JdN: And so they weren’t looking for conflict with England at all. They wanted to be left alone.
SR: They wanted no conflict with England. That was precisely the point. They couldn’t live under the English yoke, particularly after, you know, the slave trade was banned in 1807 in the British Empire. And slavery, as opposed to the trade, the [actual] ownership of slaves, was banned in 1834.
And with the banning of slavery, the British said that all across their empire, people [slave owners] could be compensated. [A healthy young male slave would have cost the owner as much as a brand-new car today.]
But, in the case of South Africa, the Cape Dutch had to obtain the compensation in person — in London!
Now, note this “in person.”
In other words, they couldn’t use a power of attorney. They couldn’t have proxies collecting compensation for him, nominated representatives.
So, of course, they were totally cheated out of all of their compensation — the Cape Dutch uniquely, out of all the people in the British Empire. Subsequent to that,
JdN: Wow….
SR: Subsequent to that was a very, very famous event….
JdN: But that’s incredible what you’re telling me. You’re positive about this.
It’s, like, designed to cause conflict.
SR: Yes. You can look it up, or you can — there’s a very well-known audiobook series, a narration by a gentleman called David Rattray, who was one of the foremost authorities on the Zulu people of South Africa, who was then murdered by some Zulus in his house. Some robbers shot him through the heart.
But he produced the story called “Day of the Dead Moon,” and if any of your listeners want to download it, they can hear the whole story there.
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2007/jan/31/guardianobituaries.southafrica
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It’s a quite beautiful story, a very heart-wrenching story.
JdN: So that’s incredible — I mean, because slaves were very valuable. I mean [that] a strong, healthy young black male slave would cost as much as a new car.
SR: Not to split hairs over semantics, but they were both valuable and costly.
On the one hand, you were being deprived of the value. On the other hand, you were losing money that you had invested — that you’re taken out of your family, your children, your future, your house — and you put it into these things [buying, feeding, clothing, housing and training slaves], and [then] along come these guys and say: Well, you [must] set the slaves free, and if you want the compensation, take a three-month boat journey to London, [and] then leave your farm behind on the African frontiers.
Needless to say, absolutely nobody took it up.
JdN: That is a fascinating detail. Amazing.
SR: There is another one you may appreciate. John, very shortly after that, there was an event in which a man beat his slave, and the slave went to the British authorities and complained, and the British then sent a summons to this chap’s farm for him to present himself before the magistrate in the nearby town.
The man refused to do so. So the British sent a contingent to arrest him — and he fought them, and he was killed. A militia, a company of soldiers, whatever. That precipitated an uprising in the district. The uprising was put down by the British, and four men were found guilty of insurrection and sentenced to death.
And when they were put on the gallows, and when the trap [door] fell, the ropes snapped; three of the ropes snapped.
Now, at the time, worldwide, in all civilized societies, well, in all European-derived societies of the world, it was common cause that if the ropes snapped on the gallows, it was deemed to be divine intervention and that person was generally set free.
So now you can imagine, amongst pious people, amongst old-fashioned Calvinists, in witnessing these three ropes snap, they immediately said “Yay! These guys are not guilty! They must be set free!”
The commander of the British garrison of the town hanged them a second time — and that precipitated a resentment which exists to this day — literally to this day. People still speak about that specific incident with high dudgeon, with absolute indignation — with complete disgust.
It is deemed by the Boers of South Africa to be part of the most disgraceful episodes of the many, many, many, many, many disgraceful episodes of British hegemony in South Africa.
JdN: Well, you know I’m glad you told me this detail also because, you know, I feel affection for England. It’s the “mother country” of America, and I’m mostly of British ancestry myself — just a little bit of German — and there’s a lot of great things about England and Great Britain, great achievements in literature, in science and in the military, and everything.
But the high-handedness of British authorities is what drove us Americans away from the British Empire. Arrogance, high-handedness, unfairness…..
Actually, my first wife and I, when we lived in Alexandria, Virginia, they were filming a movie about George Washington and [actor] Barry Bostwick played George Washington.
And he actually came into my then wife’s shop, and she was thrilled with [Bostwick]. He was a handsome guy, and he did an excellent job.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_(miniseries)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bostwick
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtkxlMTnD0&list=PL948133DBF5E34BAB&t=0s&index=2
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And George Washington was just outraged [at British arrogance]. He was a proud man, a high-achieving man, very intelligent, and a great warrior. He was also very tall, like 6-foot-4 almost, and an outstanding dancer, and highly respected — highly respected as a businessman and a farmer, and the English were just so arrogant to him. He was personally very insulted.
John Hancock up in Massachusetts had the same experience.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hancock
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[So Hancock] was a billionaire in terms of today’s money. And there was an experience where one of his little sons, who was very dear to him, was killed in a snow sledding accident. He went downhill, broke his neck, and died.
And John Hancock was the leading businessman of Boston. He had previously gone to the Royal Military Governor and said ‘When school is out, can you post just one of your privates up on the hill [Beacon Hill in downtown Boston] to make sure the boys don’t slide down that part of the hill?”
And then the British royal governor said ‘His Majesty’s soldiers are not here to guard trees.’
And then after that Hancock’s own son was killed, and, boy, that cost the British — that arrogance. I’m not saying the average Brit. I’m saying the British ruling class, you know, is just horrible.
And that’s why we left the British Empire.
SR: Yes.
JdN: We were a proud people, we Americans. And we just wanted our rights as Englishmen, and they wouldn’t give them to us. So that is what caused us to [break away].
So you know I, as an American, can feel for the outrage that the Afrikaners must have felt to have these men hanged.
OK. But please continue. This is fascinating.
So, now, Nicholas Van Rensburg was not a kook — he was unusual, but he was respected.
Now when the Second Anglo-Boer War happened, basically Britain invaded because gold and diamonds had been discovered on their land. Isn’t that crazy?
SR: Yes, yes, that’s right. The First Boer War was in 1880, and that was an attempt by the British to colonize or to annex [the two] Boer republics. And that was around about the time of the discovery of diamonds in the Northern Cape, in other words, within the British Cape Colony, which they had annexed in 1795 (and again in 1893 and again in 1896).
But it was on the very periphery of the first of the two [Boer] republics, the southernmost one [the Orange Free State], and so it’s generally understood that the motivation behind it was to continue to explore the potential of those diamond fields.
JdN: I see.
SR: And the Second Boer War occurred in 1899, and that was indisputably to do with the discovery of gold in the [in Afrikaans] Witwatersrand […] area, which was in the Boer “Republic of the Transvaal,” the “South African Republic.”
So the British were just after the wealth, and there are many good books to read if people wanted insights into that. I strongly recommend Thomas Peckinham’s The Boer War.
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And it was in this sort of atmosphere that Siener Van Rensburg came to prominence. As I said earlier on, he was born in 1862. So he was just a very young man [18] at the time of the First Boer War, which only lasted a few weeks.
And the Boers smashed the British Empire to smithereens, into absolute pieces, and they ran away with their tails between their legs.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Boer_War
Excerpts:
[…] the British subsequently ratified the two new Republics in a pair of treaties: the Sand River Convention of 1852 which recognised the independence of the Transvaal Republic, and the Bloemfontein Convention of 1854 which recognised the independence of the Orange Free State. However, British colonial expansion was, from the 1830s, marked by skirmishes and wars against both Boers and native African tribes for most of the remainder of the century.
[…] Although generally called a war, the actual engagements were of a relatively minor nature considering the few men involved on both sides and the short duration of the combat, lasting some ten weeks.
The fiercely independent Boers had no regular army; when danger threatened, all the men in a district would form a militia organised into military units called commandos and would elect officers. Commandos being civilian militia, each man wore what he wished, usually everyday dark-grey, neutral-coloured, or earthtone khaki farming clothes such as a jacket, trousers and slouch hat.
Each man brought his own weapon, usually a hunting rifle, and his own horses. The average Boer citizens who made up their commandos were farmers who had spent almost all their working lives in the saddle, and, because they had to depend on both their horses and their rifles for almost all of their meat, they were skilled hunters and expert marksmen.
British fallen
[…] As hunters they had learned to fire from cover, from a prone position and to make the first shot count, knowing that if they missed, in the time it took to reload, the game would be long gone. At community gatherings, they often held target shooting competitions using targets such as hens’ eggs perched on posts over 100 yards away.
The Boer commandos made for expert light cavalry, able to use every scrap of cover from which they could pour accurate and destructive fire at the British.
The British infantry uniforms at that date were red jackets, dark blue trousers with red piping on the side, white pith helmets and pipe clayed equipment, a stark contrast to the African landscape.
British officers at tea
The Highlanders wore the kilt.
[…] The Boer marksmen could easily snipe at British troops from a distance. The Boers carried no bayonets, leaving them at a substantial disadvantage in close combat, which they avoided as often as possible.
Drawing on years of experience of fighting frontier skirmishes with numerous and indigenous African tribes, they relied more on mobility, stealth, marksmanship and initiative while the British emphasised the traditional military values of command, discipline, formation and synchronised firepower. The average British soldier was not trained to be a marksman and got little target practice. What shooting training British soldiers had was mainly as a unit firing in volleys on command.
The First Boer War was the first conflict since the American War of Independence in which the British had been decisively defeated and forced to sign a peace treaty under unfavourable terms. It would see the introduction of the khaki uniform, marking the beginning of the end of the famous Redcoat. The Battle of Laing’s Nek would be the last occasion where a British regiment carried its official regimental colours into battle. Overall, Boer guerilla tactics involving mobility, marksmanship and high use of defensive positions proved vastly superior for the new age of breech-loading rifles and are recognised as the harbinger of future combat.
1881 Peace
Peace talks between Paul Kruger and Sir Evelyn Wood in O’Neill’s cottage near Amajuba Hill
The British government, under Prime Minister William Gladstone, was conciliatory as it realised that any further action would require substantial troop reinforcements, and it was likely that the war would be costly, messy and protracted. Unwilling to get bogged down in a distant war, the British government ordered a truce.
Sir Evelyn Wood (Colley’s replacement) signed an armistice to end the war on 6 March, and subsequently a peace treaty was signed with Kruger at O’Neil’s Cottage on 23 March 1881, bringing the war to an official end. In the final peace treaty, the Pretoria Convention, negotiated by a three-man Royal Commission, the British agreed to complete Boer self-government in the Transvaal under British suzerainty. The Boers accepted the Queen’s nominal rule and British control over external relations, African affairs and native districts. The Pretoria Convention was signed on 3 August 1881 and ratified on 25 October by the Transvaal Volksraad (parliament). This led to the withdrawal of the last British troops. The Pretoria Convention was superseded in 1884 by the London Convention which provided for similar complete self-government, although still with British control of foreign relations.
When in 1886 a second major mineral find was made at an outcrop on a large ridge some thirty miles south of the Boer capital at Pretoria, it reignited British imperial interests. The ridge, known locally as the “Witwatersrand” (literally “white water ridge”—a watershed), contained the world’s largest deposit of gold-bearing ore. Although it was not as rich as the gold finds in Canada and Australia, its consistency made it especially well suited to industrial mining methods.
By 1899, when tensions erupted into the Second Boer War, the lure of gold made it worth committing the vast resources of the British Empire and incurring the huge costs required to win that war.
However, the sharp lessons the British had learned during the First Boer War—which included Boer marksmanship, tactical flexibility and good use of ground—had largely been forgotten when the second war broke out 18 years later. Heavy casualties, as well as many setbacks, were incurred before the British were ultimately victorious.
Boer general (and future political leader) Louis Botha
[JdN: by the illegal and inhumane British tactics of:
1) looting and burning down Boer farms and slaughtering their livestock,
A Boer boy and two girls outside their burned home — the victims had to ask to move in with friends and family
and 2) locking up the women and children of the Boer fighters and deliberately starving them to death, perhaps 30,000, in “concentration camps” — the Brits’ own word.
Lizzie van Zyl
Though the Boers then surrendered, their hatred of the British for 1) declaring aggressive war on them out of pure greed for gold and diamonds, 2) killing their defenseless women and children, as well as 3) eradicating their farms, of course, knew no bounds, and this anger still exists to this day.]
In fairness, many Britons (as well as Americans, and Germans) were horrified by naked “British” greed, aggression and especially the starving of the Boers’ women and children, and protested strenously. One of them was the beautiful and famous Englishwoman Millicent Fawcett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millicent_Fawcett
Another was Emily Hobhouse (see at the end here): http://sangam.org/2007/03/Boer.php?uid=2257.
Excerpt:
The conditions in the camps were very unhealthy and the food rations were meager. The wives and children of men who were still fighting were given smaller rations than others. The poor diet and inadequate hygiene led to endemic contagious diseases such as measles, typhoid and dysentery. Coupled with a shortage of medical facilities, this led to large numbers of deaths — a report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the concentration camps. In all, about 25% of the Boer inmates and 12% of the black African ones died (although recent research suggests that the black African deaths were underestimated and may have actually been around 20,000).
A delegate of the South African Women and Children’s Distress Fund, Emily Hobhouse, did much to publicise the distress of the inmates on her return to Britain after visiting some of the camps in the Orange Free State. Her fifteen-page report caused uproar, and led to a government commission, the Fawcett Commission, visiting camps from August to December 1901 which confirmed her report.
Lord Kitchener, later killed in WWI by a German submarine sinking his ship, was responsible for the concentration-camp mass murders.
They were highly critical of the running of the camps and made numerous recommendations, for example improvements in diet and provision of proper medical facilities. By February 1902 the annual death-rate dropped to 6.9% and eventually to 2%.
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But by the time of the Second Boer War the British came back in far greater numbers.
JdN: 500,000 men! Which is huge.
SR: Around about 450,000 to 500,000, and they took on the Boer forces in the field, which were between 45,000 and 60,000 at the most, whereas the British forces had, in the field, at most 220,000, that is to say, men-at-arms in the field: frontline infantry, artillery and cavalry combattants.
So that disparity was absolutely unbelievable, but you should bear in mind that in 1838, in other words, just two generations before, the Boers took on the might of the Zulu Empire, deploying 464 men and one ship’s “salute cannon,” in other words, a cannon of about 12 inches in length, a ship’s salute cannon, 464 men, who took on the Zulus at the Battle of Blood River, and prior to the Battle of Blood River — these records still exist — some British missionaries and military observers recorded that the Zulu king was marching with precisely 40 battalions of 900 men each.
So that’s 36,000 men, and many of those men were armed with guns.
You know, the general conception is that the Zulus just had spears, you know, which if they only had spears would still be 36,000 versus 464.
They didn’t only have spears. It’s very well reported that many firearms had been bought from unscrupulous missionaries and traders and so on.
JdN: In the United States we had the same problem. And over and over, unscrupulous whites would sell modern rifles to the American Indians, the Red Indians, and in some cases [it was] the liberal do-gooder Quakers of the city of Philadelphia (and for a long time Philadelphia was the capital of Pennsylvania).
And these people [in the city of Philadelphia] had no idea what life was like on the frontier, and [for them it was] “the poor Indians” and they passed laws to sell rifles only to the Indians, not to the whites.
SR: Yes.
JdN: And so you saw the slaughter of the whites. It’s incredible. Indians did not invent their own rifles. They had the technology to make their own rifles. It was white men so the rifles or gave them rifles to fight and kill their fellow white men.
Well, the point being the Boers won that encounter with no losses whatsoever, which is unique in the history of human warfare. There is no similar example. Even the 300 Greeks [= the Spartans at Thermopylae] against the Persians did suffer losses.
We’re talking about 464 men versus 36,000 — in which the 464 did not suffer one single loss.
And they believe that it came down to the fact that they prayed day and night, making an oath to God prior to the battle, for, if I recall correctly, eight days and nights prior to the battle. And they made an oath to God saying that if you will give us this battle — if you will give the enemy into our hands and if you will give us the field — then we will keep this as the seventh day [ = the Sabbath, a day of rest and worship] forever. And that was the sixteenth of December 1838.
So my point being that if we talk about Siener Van Rensburg, if we talk about 1899, the Second [Anglo-]Boer War, and the identity of the Boers, they perceive themselves very much to the people with a special relationship to our Lord, and they believe that He was on their side. And as long as they obeyed His commands, He would look after them.
*** Calvinist Christianity as it evolved among the Boers to create a “special people”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Calvinism
Excerpts:
Afrikaner Calvinism is a theoretical cultural and religious development among Afrikanersthat combined elements of seventeenth-century Calvinist doctrine with a “chosen people” ideology similar to that espoused by proponents of the Jewish nation movement.[1]
Boer Republics which arose after the Great Trek needed a comprehensive philosophy upon which to organise a puritanical Boer society. Paul Kruger, first president of the South African Republic upon its reacquired independence after the brief British annexation, adopted the Calvinstic principles in its political form, and formulated a cultural mandate based on the Voortrekkers’ conviction that they had a special calling from God, not unlike the people of Israel in the Bible. The Doppers waged an intellectual war against the perceived influx of uitlander [foreigner] culture which was flooding into the Transvaal through the mass settlements of foreign immigrants lured by gold and diamonds.
“Separation is Strength”
Afrikaner Broederbond
The Boer Wars had left many of the Afrikaners utterly destitute. The ruined farmers were seen in the hundreds, following the war, lining the highways selling produce by the basket. After the four South African colonies united politically into the Union of South Africa and relinquished control to democratic elections, a small, anonymous group of young intellectuals called the Afrikaner Broederbond, formed in the years following the Second Anglo-Boer War to discuss strategies for addressing the overwhelming social problem of poor whites and other Afrikaner interests.
By the account of Irving Hexham, according to Klaus Venter and Hendrick Stoker who were themselves disgruntled members of the secret organisation, in 1927 the Broederbond moved to Potchefstroom University, asking that the school would take over leadership of the then-struggling group. That year, the Broederbond formally adopted the Calvinist philosophy based on the work of Abraham Kuyper. The Broederbond believed, with deep-rooted conviction, that what their past had provided them through the interpretation of faith was a model of anti-imperialism, self-discipline and responsibility, which in the end would preserve justice for all – blacks, coloured, and whites – against Communist deceit. These strategies that arose from the Broederbond were directly responsible for the establishment of apartheid, in 1948.[citation needed]
After the Sharpeville massacre in 1960, under enormous international pressure, the Broederbond began a slow and quiet re-examination of their policy proposals. And yet no significant changes took place to reform the apartheid system until the Soweto riots in 1976. Some time after this, the Broederbond [ JdN: = which had been infiltrated by the New World Order using huge bribes and blackmail] declared apartheid an irreformable failure and began work to dismantle it. The conviction had finally become established, although not universally that, if the Afrikaner people, language and religion were to survive, they must take the initiative to emerge from the laager [ = the encampment, the circled wagons and the mindset of “us against the world”] and invite South Africa [meaning “the blacks and browns”] in. The Broederbond (dropping the policy of secrecy and with the new name Afrikanerbond) began proposing initiatives for land reform and the reversal of apartheid.
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And so Siener Van Rensburg, naturally, being this prophetic figure, being this “soothsayer” (for want of a better word — I know that it’s not a good word for a prophet, but in colloquial terms, being this kind of soothsayer) people naturally looked up to him — and he developed a tremendous credibility that we spoke about earlier on.
I don’t know if you have particular questions about particular visions or so on, but I think that’s a pretty comprehensive insight into who he was and how he fitted into the picture in those early days of the Boer republics.
JdN: Good. Listen, let’s just take a little break here.
SR: Yes, certainly.
You’re listening to Resistance Radio.
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Continued (part two of two) at https://johndenugent.com/roche-van-rensburg-ii/