This interview was given to Rivarol by Vincent Reynouard on 23.XI.2022 from Edinburgh prison.

Rivarol: On November 10, you were apprehended by the police in the small house where you lived in hiding, in the middle of the Scottish countryside. Since then, you have been incarcerated in Edinburgh Prison. Are you okay?

Vicent Reynouard: Before answering, I would like to emphasize that my arrest provides a striking refutation of two kinds of speeches often heard:
1. Our opponents present the revisionists as a handful of crazy people who deny obvious historical realities that for a thousand times have been demonstrated;
2. Within the nationalist rightwing, many maintain that the revisionist struggle is useless (when it is not considered counterproductive), on the grounds that people only care about the future, not the past, and not history.

If these notions were true, then a Vincent Reynouard would interest no one, except his audience, depicted as skeletal. The authorities and opponents would therefore let him be “delirious” in his little corner.

However, I was apprehended because in June 2021, the France issued an arrest warrant for me. Reason: I was to serve a one-year prison sentence for a revisionist video posted on YouTube in… 2013 ! My channel has since been shut down and video has disappeared from major internet-sharing platforms.

I would add that on 10 November, the Scottish Public Prosecutor opposed my provisional release on the grounds that the British police had “deployed significant means to locate [me]”.

So I was arrested for a thirty-minute video, totally forgotten or unknown, released nine years ago!

Who can make me believe after this that revisionism does not matter?

A.: You will be told that your arrest is due to your activism, which has not wavered, quite the contrary.

V.R.: It doesn’t change anything. My opponents acted to get me kicked out off YouTube, Facebook, VK, Vimeo, etc. They had my blog and shoarnaque.org website blocked France. They closed my Patreon and Buymeacoffee accounts which were used to receive donations. They prevented our customers from being able to pay for their order by credit card or PayPal. In short, they gagged us and almost asphyxiated us financially.

Only a very small audience, made up of very convinced people, now follows me. In other words: I speak from the catacombs of the Internet before a very small assembly of faithful who support the revisionist cause.

But even that was still too much. I had to be apprehended to silence me. My whisper—for it was now only a whisper—was still too much for the Guardians of Memory.

What a confession of their fear!

A.: It will be objected that this small assembly at your disposal includes psychologically unstable people who are likely to commit “racist” acts. The judges who heavily sentenced you in 2015 invoked this reasoning.

V.R.: I can oppose them with the hard facts. In thirty years of activism, how many violent acts have been attributed to me? Not one!

At the end of August 2020, an unknown person wrote on the entrance wall of the Oradour Memory Center: “When will the truth be found? Reynouard is right.” This is the only significant act — because it has been publicized — that can be attributed to me.

However, this question – when the truth – frightens them to the highest degree, because even in the state of my voice being just distant echo coming up from the catacombs of the Internet, the truth still terrifies these worried liars.

That is why I repeat: my arrest represents an admission by our adversaries — a blatant admission of the importance of revisionism.

A.: So let’s go back to your detention. Are you keeping your spirits up?

V.R.: My morale is excellent. It must be said that after the prisons of Forest (in Brussels), Caen, Valenciennes and Fleury-Mérogis, I am starting to get used to it.

The prison world has its realities and rules. If you rebel against it, then you will experience hell, a hell that you have created yourself.

If, on the other hand, you accept these realities and respect these rules, then everything will be fine. That is my personal experience.

It conforms to the principle that your existence depends first and foremost on you. Of course, I do not dispute the importance of external elements; But ultimately, your mind weighs more heavily on how things go.

There is an adage that says: “Just because an event is serious doesn’t mean it makes you suffer; it is because it makes you suffer that it seems serious to you. Welcome the event and it will lose much of its gravity.”

Prison is the ideal place to put this teaching into practice.

R.: Are you alone in the cell?

V.R.: No, not exactly. I share it with a 43-year-old Scotsman, apprehended for cocaine trafficking and awaiting trial. We are not at all in the same world, but I accept it and, above all, I avoid taking a position of systematic opposition.

For example, Steeve (that’s his name) watches TV from 7:30 a.m. to 11 p.m. However, he has a considerate attitude and sets the volume quite low. In addition, he watches many “reality” documentaries: the life of a team of researchers in Australia, a family living in Alaska, fishermen on the high seas, restorers of old vehicles found in barns or forests…

Sometimes it’s interesting. I then interrupt my activities to watch with him.

It’s my way of not taking a posture of systematic opposition: I take what is good on television.

The rest of the time, I focus on my own activities. I add that Steeve is very clean, not only regarding his person, but also in the cell, which he cleans every other day. Therefore, our cohabitation is going well. We pool our things so that no one lacks anything.

R.: How is your cell?

V.R.: Similar to all the cells I’ve ever known. 15 to 18 square meters, cream-colored painted walls (with graffiti), a large window that can be partially opened to ventilate, a dozen shelves divided into three places, two bunk beds (the mattress is foam, of adequate thickness, covered with a sheet and a duvet with cover), and a “bathroom” corner of about three square meters.

Separated from the cell by a partition with a door, there is the toilet and a sink with hot and cold water. Privacy is well assured. While waiting for my desk lamp, I am write things in a corner of the bathroom so as not to disturb my fellow inmate’s sleep.

R.: Do you talk to the guards?

V.R.: Yes, and they are all very nice. Some are even friendly. They call us by our first names, which helps build camaraderie. All of them make sure to meet our demands and, thus, to make our detention easier.

A.: Is the food good and sufficient?

V.R.: It’s very good. In the morning, an inmate brings breakfast into the cell. Each prisoner receives a ball of bread weighing about 200 grams, 150 grams of cereals (Rice Krispies or Corn Flakes), a portion of jam and half a liter of semi-skimmed milk.

On Friday morning, we receive a small paper bag filled with tea, sugar and bags of powdered milk. It’s meant for the whole week. I add that each cell is equipped with a kettle to prepare hot drinks.

Three different meals are offered for lunch, and three for dinner. They are chosen the day before, during the morning outing, from a guard who comes to the lobby of the floor.

I always choose menu No. 3, i.e. vegetarian, and dessert No. 2, fruit. The vegetarian menu often includes a large baked potato and soup. I mix the two and get a succulent meal. Only problem: the rations are just enough.

R.: How are the days going?

V.R.: The timetable is as follows. 7:15 a.m.: two guards pass by the cells for the morning call; 7:45 a.m.: breakfast; 9 a.m. to 10 a.m.: exit to the upstairs lobby; noon: lunch; 2 p.m. to 3 p.m.: exit to the lobby; 3 p.m. to 4 p.m.: walk in the courtyard; 4:30 p.m.: evening meal; 7 p.m.: evening call by two guards. Both exits and the walk are not mandatory: you can stay in your cell. For my part, I go out in the morning and afternoon into the lobby.

R.: What do you do there?

V.R.: There are a lot things you can do there. Of course, one can meet the other detainees, either in the lobby or in their cells, and chat over a cup of tea or coffee.

For those who want a hot snack, four microwave ovens are available in the lobby.

There are also six tables with chairs, either for reading the newspaper, playing dominoes, or for conversing; a ping-pong table and a very nice pool table.

On each floor, people play pool; some are very good.

For my part, I take advantage of the exit to go to the library upstairs. It contains 300 books, almost all in English: bibliographies, stories and novels, mainly. There are also some religious works (Christian and Muslim) and some sociology books. I go there to flip through them, because none of them interest me enough to read them in full.

Then I go to the shower. The room has four individual cabins. The door reveals your feet, torso and head. You can’t adjust the water temperature, but it’s just right. Knowing that in the morning, the showers are very little used, I stay in there for about fifteen minutes. I take the opportunity to wash my underwear, which will dry on the heating of the cell. This morning shower is a real pleasure.

A: Are there many people of color in prison?

V.R.: Where I am, no. Of the 40 detainees (20 cells of two prisoners each), there are one black and two Asians (one Vietnamese and one Burmese). I noticed that Scotland was not a land of immigration. Prison seems to confirm this.

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R.: Did you sympathize with prisoners?

V.R.: Yes, despite the language barrier, or more precisely the accent barrier. The Scots speak local English with such an accent that to my ears it’s almost another language. However, I sympathized with a Bulgarian, a Romanian and a Pole, who were also subject to an extradition request.

R.: Do inmates know why you are in prison?

V.R.: Yes, because I have been the subject of articles in the British press, including in The Sun that prisoners can read every day. The news spread like wildfire. People came to me, some out of curiosity, others to ask me what I was writing about the Holocaust.

I summed up revisionism for them. They listened attentively, without appearing revolted or incredulous. I do not claim to have convinced them, but they are interested. I was asked for my latest book, because some people knew — I do not know how — that my book on Oradour was going to appear. I promised to show it to them if I am allowed to receive it.

A.: Let’s talk about the future. Do you think you will be extradited to France?

V.R.: Initially, I was convinced of that. But my court-appointed lawyer pointed out that in Scottish law there is a strong argument in my favour: I have not committed any offence here, and in the UK, revisionism — for which the France is seeking my extradition — is not considered a crime. Here you can challenge the reality of the Holocaust.

Therefore, and according to Scottish law, my extradition to France is by no means obligatory; perhaps it would even be illegal. That is why my court-appointed lawyer referred my file to another lawyer specializing in extradition cases.

A preliminary hearing will be held on 8 December [tomorrow] before the competent court. The hearing that will settle my fate has been set for February 23, 2023.

A.: This is good news, but in terms of how the authorities treat revisionism, Robert Faurisson stressed that there is “neither good faith nor law.” We can therefore imagine that despite the texts, the Scottish authorities may still hand you over to France.

V.R.: Naturally, and I’ve always been mentally prepared for it. When I got out of prison in 2011, after serving a one-year sentence for revisionism, I didn’t stop my activism.

With the videos, I even moved up a gear by addressing the younger generations. In 2013, my opponents sued me for a revisionist video that denounced the recruitment of youth. To me, this is not accidental. These proceedings led to my sentencing, in February 2015, to two years in prison. That was twice the maximum penalty under the law.

Of course, I knew that on appeal, this sentence would be reduced to one year, but I understood that henceforth, the French authorities would do everything to throw me again adn again into prison and keep me there as long as possible, knowing that I was a diehard.

Hence my fleeing to England, where Providence offered me a small house near London. Until 2021, I enjoyed relative tranquility: while France sentenced me to 29 months in prison, the British authorities remained inactive.

I knew, however, that this respite was temporary. In October 2021, I narrowly escaped arrest. I then lost everything: my home, my personal belongings and my private tutoring income.

I only thought about saving my computer and my archives on Oradour, because I wanted to finish my new book, which remains my life’s work. (I am the only revisionist working on Oradour).

After a few adventures, I found a room in Scotland, which I rented under a false name. I had nothing: I was an illegal immigrant with no social security or legal status. In short, I knew that the next phase would be my arrest or death. So I hurried to finish my new book on Oradour.

At the same time, I set out to synthesize my work on the Holocaust. In my opinion, it was less important because on this subject, humanity has the authoritative works of Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Germar Rudolf, Arthur Butz, Thomas Kues and Robert Faurisson.

For my part, I am only a broadcaster in the French-speaking world… I was arrested only a few days after making the final corrections to the book on Oradour.

I see in this a message from Providence, telling me: “Now that you have finished your life’s work, it must be publicized and the situation clarified for the future.” And me being in prison is an excellent advertisement for my book! That is why I am by no means desperate. On the contrary, I have many projects, including if I stay in prison.

R.: What are these projects?

V.R.: To relax in prison, I solve math problems that I pose to myself. This allows me to revise concepts and deepen them to be able to better explain them to students: my experience has shown me that the more you deepen a notion, the more you master it and the more clearly you can expose it (in Bossuet’s words).

For example, I found a very simple and visual proof of the Pythagorean theorem with a square and four right triangles. I am also developing a method of learning fractions, difficult notions for many students, simply because there is not enough emphasis on the deep nature of a fraction.

Finally, I am interested in integral calculus, in order to make it accessible to teenagers. I would like to outline all this in a textbook for students. If I stay in prison, I will find the time. I also went back to drawing. My goal is to improve myself to, finally, create two revisionist comics! One on Oradour, the other on Auschwitz. This project would take me at least two years, the time to learn how to create dynamic drawings and build the scenarios.

A.: You also talked about writing your memoirs.

V.R.: Yes, and I started. I have already written twenty pages. I want to tell the story of how my life prepared me for revisionist activism. My objective, then, is not — or not only — to expose the revisionist arguments that convinced me, but to explain how Providence trained me to become a resolute revisionist fighter, always present on the front line.

My memoirs will help others understand why I have faith and trust in Providence, today more than ever. Long live revisionism, and thank you all!

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