Was Hannibal a previous incarnation of George Patton, who now is Trump?

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Hannibal Barca, a legendary warrior and general from ancient Carthage, fought the Roman Republic during the Punic Wars. He is best known for leading his army and war elephants through the Alps north of Italy to reign havoc down upon the Romans.

This bust of Hannibal dates to about the Second Punic War. It was originally found at the ancient city-state of Capua in Italia. Capua was closely allied to the general, and it possibly commissioned the bust in honor of him. It also corresponds well with Carthago-Phoenicians coins and may be said to be a true likeness of Hannibal. In addition, artists and sculptors sometimes have a knack for tuning into the soul of an individual, capturing the true essence of the man.

Wiki:

Hannibal Barca (/ˈhænɪbəl/; 247 – between 183 and 181 BC)[n 1] was a general of the PhoenicianCanaanite state of Ancient Carthage, and is widely considered as one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father Hamilcar Barca was the leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War. His younger brothers were Mago and Hasdrubal, and he was brother-in-law to Hasdrubal the Fair.

Hannibal lived during a period of great tension in the western Mediterranean Basin, when the Roman Republic established its supremacy over other great powers such as ancient Carthage, the Etruscans, the Samnites, and the Greek kingdom of Syracuse. One of his most famous achievements was at the outbreak of the Second Punic War, when he marched an army which included war elephants from Iberia over the Pyrenees and the Alps into Italy. In his first few years in Italy, he won dramatic victories at the Trebia, Lake Trasimene, and Cannae. He distinguished himself for his ability to determine his and his opponent’s respective strengths and weaknesses, and to plan battles accordingly. Hannibal’s well-planned strategies allowed him to conquer many allies of Rome.

Hannibal occupied part of Italy, specifically southern Italy, for 15 years but was unable to march on Rome. An enemy counter-invasion of North Africa forced him to return to Carthage, where he was decisively defeated by Scipio Africanus at the Battle of Zama. Scipio had studied Hannibal’s tactics and brilliantly devised some of his own, and he finally defeated Rome’s nemesis at Zama, having previously driven Hannibal’s brother Hasdrubal out of the Iberian Peninsula.

After the war, Hannibal successfully ran for the office of sufet. He enacted political and financial reforms to enable the payment of the war indemnity imposed by Rome; however, those reforms were unpopular with members of the Carthaginian aristocracy and in Rome, and he fled into voluntary exile. During this time, he lived at the Seleucid court, where he acted as military advisor to Antiochus III the Great in his war against Rome. Antiochus met defeat at the Battle of Magnesia and was forced to accept Rome’s terms, and Hannibal fled again, making a stop in the Kingdom of Armenia. His flight ended in the court of Bithynia, where he achieved an outstanding naval victory against a fleet from Pergamon. He was afterwards betrayed to the Romans and committed suicide by poisoning himself.

Hannibal is often regarded as one of the greatest military strategists in history and one of the greatest generals of Mediterranean antiquity, together with Philip of Macedon, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Scipio Africanus. Plutarch states that Scipio asked Hannibal who was the greatest general, and Hannibal replied either Alexander or Pyrrhus, then himself[1] (or Pyrrhus, Scipio, then himself, according to another version of the event).[2] Military historian Theodore Ayrault Dodge called Hannibal the “father of strategy”,[3] because his enemy Rome adopted elements of his military tactics in its own strategic arsenal. This praise has earned him a strong reputation in the modern world, and he was regarded as a great strategist by Napoleon and others.

 

 

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Many, including other truthers, are frankly scared by the things I say (even though I prove them with clear facts!).

But primitive human consciousness has a vast filter. People of all education levels simply cherry-pick what they WANT to believe, or WANT to reject, which is literally madness…. like a kid wanting to eat just a sugary desert, not his good meat-and-vegetables food!

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…..Reincarnation facts

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Reincarnation Evidence

…..Maverick, egotistical, flashy, bellicose, blondish, blue-eyed, 6’2″ President Donald Trump (born June 1946) is literally the reincarnation of the maverick, egotistical, flashy, bellicose, blondish, blue-eyed, 6’2″ general George Patton (died December 1945)

Trump, previously George Patton, is ready for conflict, war and death once again in this incarnation

Excerpt from the “Reincarnation Evidence” article:

In 1923, [Henry] Ford’s pastor, and head of his sociology department, Episcopal minister Samuel S. Marquis, claimed that Ford believed, or “once believed” in reincarnation.[63] Though it is unclear whether or how long Ford kept such a belief, the San Francisco Examiner from August 26, 1928, published a quote which described Ford’s beliefs:

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I adopted the theory of reincarnation when I was twenty six. [JdN: He was then 60 years old.] Religion offered nothing to the point. Even work could not give me complete satisfaction. Work is futile if we cannot utilize the experience we collect in one life in the next.

When I discovered reincarnation it was as if I had found a universal plan. I realized that there was a chance to work out my ideas. Time was no longer limited. I was no longer a slave to the hands of the clock.

Genius is experience. Some seem to think that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long experience in many lives. Some are older souls than others, and so they know more.

The discovery of reincarnation put my mind at ease. If you preserve a record of this conversation, write it so that it puts men’s minds at ease. I would like to communicate to others the calmness that the long view of life gives to us.
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…..YET ANOTHER NEW AGEY, LIBERAL HIPPIE WHO BELIEVED IN REINCARNATION
(DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS MAN’S FACE?)
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General George Patton after the end of WWII

 

[JdN: I have corrected a few punctuation errors and slightly shortened the essay below, of which the original version is found here: http://www.reversespins.com/patton.html]

Patton Movie Script: Dialogue taken from movie.
Scene descriptions from Reverse Spins Editor.
SCENE:
Three men in W.W. II uniforms (two Generals) traveling down a North African road in a jeep.
DIALOGUE:
General George S. Patton (George C. Scott): “Hold it! Turn right here.”
Driver: “But sir, the battlefield is straight ahead.”
Patton: “Please don’t argue with me Sergeant. I can smell a battlefield.”
General Omar Bradley (Karl Malden): ” He was out here just yesterday George.”
Patton: (points with his riding crop) “It’s over there, turn right, damn it!”
SCENE:
The jeep goes off road, passing some turbaned North Africans on donkeys and then comes upon some Romanesque ruins. Patton gets out, followed by Bradley. A haunting echo of horns plays in the background as if replaying some ancient charge of a long forgotten battle.
DIALOGUE:
Patton: “It was here. The battlefield was here. The Carthaginians defending the city were attacked by three Roman Legions. Carthaginians were proud and brave but they couldn’t hold. They were massacred. Arab women stripped them of their tunics and their swords and lances. The soldiers lay naked in the sun, two thousand years ago; and I was here.”
SCENE:
Patton, on bended knee, pauses, smiles knowingly, turns to a sometimes bemused Bradley and says:
DIALOGUE:
Patton: “You don’t believe me, do you Brad? You know what the poet said,
˜Through the travail of ages,
midst the pomp and toils of war,
have I fought and strove and perished,
countless times among the stars.
As if through a glass and darkly,
the age old strife I see,
when I fought in many guises and many names,
but always me.’” *
Patton: “Do you know who the poet was?”
Bradley [Smiles slightly and shakes his head, no.]
Patton: “Me.”

From the 1970 movie with George S. Scott as Patton, and with Karl Malden as General Omar Bradley, shot actually at the ruins of the ancient Roman Volubilis, now Morocco

A particularly evocative scene from the movie “Patton,” is it not? You get the sense that he actually remembers the terrible scene of his fallen comrades.

But what of his modern day army, those men he led in World War II? Tens of thousands of them willingly trusted his judgement in battle. Would they also follow him in matters of the spirit? Would those who believe he was brilliant in battle also believe that that insightfulness can be brought to bear in other areas of life?

George Patton believed in reincarnation. He remembered fighting the Romans as a Carthaginian. Patton also believed he was with Napoleon as the flamboyant and daring Marshal Ney.

I will make the case that one of America’s greatest generals, Patton, was one of history’s greatest generals, Hannibal — through both parallels (habits ingrained) and lessons learned (opposite courses of action). Many can be explained as coincidences but then, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, ˜there are no accidents.’

Do great generals just sprout up or are they made over countless lifetimes, perfecting and honing their abilities? You be the judge:

1. Both grew up in wealthy families.
2. “I swear that as soon as age will permit . . . I will use fire and steel to arrest the destiny of Rome.” “ A very young Hannibal Barca said this while standing next to his father, before an altar. George Patton decided during childhood that his goal in life was to be a hero in the mold of ancient Greek heroes. His father read to him Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey until the boy could recite the lines himself.
3. Both were avid horsemen.
4. Both entered the infantry. Patton had several other choices. Hannibal had only two. Carthage was a famous seafaring city also.
5. Both cut their teeth in battle in a Spanish-speaking country, Patton in Mexico and Hannibal in Spain.
6. Both were enamored with the use of heavy armor. Patton with his tanks and Hannibal utilized armor-plated elephants like no one before or since, although they were often ineffective. He must have been pretty pleased with the new innovation of tanks.
7. Hannibal’s final defeat happened in North Africa. Patton joins WWII by landing in North Africa. He rectifies the karmic record by winning their his first major engagement.
8. The Roman consul Scipio studied Hannibal’s tactics to finally defeat him at Zama. (Among some of these were the use of horns which were blown to scare the charging elephants into retreat, causing havoc in the advancing Carthaginian lines.) Patton studied Rommel’s book and tactics to defeat his Panzer battalion in North Africa. It would be an ironic case of karmic justice if Rommel and Scipio were one and the same.
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Hannibal crossing the Alps

9. Hannibal led one of the greatest, if not THE greatest march in history. With approximately 60,000 men, 20,000 or so cavalry and 100 elephants, he started from Spain; crossed the Rhone River in France; then crossed the Alps — in winter! — to attack Italy from the north. Patton was famous for getting his troops to move faster and beyond the expectations of both the Allies and the German enemy. His Third Army “end run” through France is a prime example. By “coincidence” the longest terrain Hannibal had to cross was France as well.
10. Both of them would find ways to overcome obstacles that would stop others in their tracks, literally. They were both adept at crossing rivers. When crossing the Rhone, Hannibal created a gigantic raft covered in dirt and plants to fool the elephants into getting on board. It worked.
In a war game before WWII, Patton had to cross rivers without using any existing bridge. A lieutenant came upon a tank sitting in a stream with only its turret showing. Patton said to him: “Their speed was not high enough when they hit the water. I’m sure they could float all the way across the stream if they had hit the water at top speed! We gotta be able to cross this kind of stuff without bridges. It takes too much time to build a pontoon bridge for these little streams.” He then proceeded to back up his tank 100 yards. The driver gunned it with only Patton sticking out of the turret. Patton braced himself as the impact created a great splash. The tank floated for a moment, the engine sputtered and the tracks finally caught hold on the other side, lifting the drenched tank to the opposite bank. (From General Patton’s Principles by Porter Williamson)
11. There are two of Patton’s principles that Williamson extrapolated from that experience. They are in Patton’s words:
1) We can always learn from each other. You watch me cross this stream. You taught me that you reserve officers can solve problems. Let me show you how to get a tank across a river!” and
20 “Always do everything you expect of the men you command.” These principles are perfectly consistent with the M. O. of Hannibal. He was with the men every step of the way from Spain, into the Alps and on to the plains of Italy, sharing their difficulties and triumphs.
12. Hasdrubal, Hannibal’s brother (sometimes described as his brother-in-law) comes from Spain, crosses France and the Alps to aid Hannibal; only to be defeated and killed almost immediately upon entering Italy. His head is sent to Hannibal’s camp. This had to be a devasting series of events for Hannnibal. First, he did not know that Hasdrubal was coming to his aid. When he did find out, couriers were constantly being intercepted by the Romans. He did not know the true situation and so decides to wait in the south. The loss of Hasdrubal’s 30,000-man army signaled a change in the fortunes of Hannibal. The unexpectant arrival of Hasdrubal’s head must have been unnerving.

“Hannibal discovers the head of Hasdrubal” by Giovanni-Battista Tiepolo. Bridgeman Art Library

Could it have had such an emotional impact that it would cloud his judgement in a future life? Patton’s worst fiasco of the war was his ill-conceived plan to liberate the Allied prisoners of war in a prison camp at Hammelburg, Germany. He did not have enough intel, so not enough troops were sent. Not only were the prisoners recaptured, but the troops he sent were captured also. Why the error in judgement? His son-in-law was a POW in that camp. Could this be the hidden cause and effect behind a failed mission that has baffled historians to this day?
13. Hannibal spent about 17 years trying to subdue Rome. In retrospect, his greatest error was in not attacking Rome directly. Some experts say he lacked siege equipment, therefore he didn’t try; or that he didn’t want to destroy Rome, just split off city-states to reduce its power. It would be his undoing. Patton, having learned from that mistake over 2,000 years ago, was relentless in forging ahead whenever he attacked. First he raced Monty to Messina and probably would have finally been able to attack Rome, 2,000 years later, through Anzio if not for the infamous ˜slapping’ incident.
He did prove for the first time in WWII that the Americans were a highly effective fighting force. When he resumed command, he made a beeline for Berlin. They had to slow him down, in fact. (FDR had promised Stalin Eastern Europe. If Patton’s Third Army had liberated Eastern Europe before the Soviets arrived, it would have been difficult politically for Roosevelt or Truman to just let those US-occupied countries become communist.)
14. Elephants turned back on his own troops help to defeat Hannibal at Zama. Lack of gasoline slowed down Patton’s heavy armor.
15. Both fought martial, warlike states.
16. For a short while after his defeat, Hannibal ruled Carthage with democratic principles, trying to reduce the power of the oligarchy. That didn’t sit well with the powers that be. He was forced to leave. Patton refused to blindly condemn all Germans, even the SS, despite media pressure. He was only interested in punishing the “Nazis.” Needless to say, this put him at odds with the press and the higher brass, especially Eisenhower.
18. Both were an anathema to ruling governments once the fighting stopped. Hannibal was hounded all across the Mediterranean once he was forced to leave Carthage. Patton was a duck out of water in administering the conquered land.
19. Both men died a strange death. Chased till he could take it no more, Hannibal committed suicide. Patton died an innocuous death in a minor traffic accident, though many believe to this day there was foul play.
20. Both had an endearing personality and charisma to spare. Although each undoubtedly had a strong ego, their men would follow them anywhere. Indeed, no one has ever matched Hannibal’s ability. He kept a massive force of mercenaries together for over 15 years, on foreign soil without one mutiny.
21. Now look again at the two pictures you first saw at the top of this essay, but this time more closely.

William House
”Editor, Reverse Spins

Roman Consul Paullus was killed during Hannibal’s victory at Cannae

 

Before Hannibal’s greatest battle and Rome’s worst defeat in history, Cannae, he stood with his commanders overlooking a terrifying sight — Roman legions and cavalry that outnumbered them two-to-one. One of his followers, called Gisgo, a Carthaginian of equal rank with himself, told him that the numbers of the enemy were astonishing; to which Hannibal replied with a serious countenance,

“There is one thing, Gisgo, yet more astonishing, which you take no notice of.”

And when Gisgo inquired what, answered, that

“In all those great numbers before us, there is not one man called Gisgo.“

This unexpected jest of their general made all the company laugh, and as they came down from the hill, they told it to those whom they met, which caused a general laughter amongst them all.

(Source: http://www.geocities.com/nusso1/ )
[ If that doesn’t sound like Patton, I don’t know what does! ” the editor]

Captain George S. Patton had never before visited Langres, a small town in northeastern France. But in December 1917, during WWI, having just arrived to operate a tank school, the American newcomer declined the offer of a local liaison officer to show him around the town, once the site of a Roman military camp.

Langres

Old Roman road

Filled-in ancient Roman double-door entrance

“You don’t have to,” Patton told the surprised young man, “I know it well.” A staunch believer in reincarnation, Patton felt sure that he had been to France before  — as a Roman legionnaire. As he led the way through the area, he pointed out the sites of the ancient Roman temples and amphitheater, the drill ground, and the forum, even showing a spot where Julius Caesar had made his camp.

It was, Patton later told his nephew, : “As if someone were at my ear whispering the directions” — from The Many Incarnations of George S. Patton

Why there may be more behind Marshal Ney than meets the eye.

Patton Movie Script: Dialogue taken from movie.

Scene descriptions from Reverse Spins Editor.

SCENE:
After Patton finishes speaking French to an aide, the scene shifts to an elegant dinner. Patton is surrounded by senior British officers. A few American officers are at the far end of the table. The British officer to his left compliments George on the fine wine. Patton’s culture and knowledge of history is apparent. The ambience is set for an unusual revelation. Patton turns to Sir Harold on his right, the highest ranking Brit there and says:

DIALOGUE:
Patton: “I think it was Alcibiades in the Peloponnesian War , ah, 415 B.C., he said , “If Syracusa falls, all Sicily falls, and then Italy.’ He knew, you see, that Syracuse was the jugular of the island, and old Alcibiades always went for the throat. I propose to take Sicily in the same way ¦”

SCENE:
Patton gives a short explanation of the plan using a map. The British are impressed. Patton raises his glass in a toast and says:
DIALOGUE:
Patton: “To the conquest of Sicily.”
Sir Harold: “You know George, you’d have made a great Marshal for Napoleon, if you had lived in the 18th century.”
Patton: “But I did, Sir Harold, I did.”
SCENE:
Everyone laughs, no one harder than Sir Harold and Patton. The toast is finished and the scene ends.

“Michel Ney” 

Trump speaking from the Oval Office on his Wall project in January 2019

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….I thanked the comrade who sent me a photo of a statue of Hannibal

Dear P,
Many thanks for the FB PM on Hannibal.
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What is interesting is how both he and I are drastically shifting gears.
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He was a general who is now a politician. Not an easy switch when you are used to obedience!
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For me, it is from politician to spiritual leader. Not easy, either, to go from using psychological tricks (cool uniforms, rallies, music, ceremonies, the blood flag, awards for bravery, fiery speeches) to get people to do the right thing and now trying to truly change people at their very core.
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I did say this, but it was not my main thrust 1889-45. I just accepted people as they were, and proceded on the basis of Gustave Le Bon’s “The Psychology of the Masses.” 🙂
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Thanks again, P.

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Going today to get the “verdict” on Margi’s PET scan for cancer.
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John
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