What has been (if any) your experience with CBD for pain?

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As Margi recovers, she wants to get off the morphine she has been on for a year, which dopes her up. (This is in turn depressing for her, since Margi used to be doing very useful things with her time and talents for both our cause and for me.  She said recently: “I feel I am just existing without purpose.”  🙁 )

She has cooked or prepared some wonderful meals for me, such as this chef’s salad. However, she still cannot swallow food or drink as a result of the throat cancer of 2018-19 and 34 sessions of radiation. 

Now a doctor wants Margi off morphine –but on methadone…..

We want to do without all this chemical stuff entirely.

Her pain is still pretty bad — though the tumor itself is gone, gone, gone. 🙂

I found this article below online, and will only add that of course there are no large-scale clinical trials of CBD on pain!

First, the stuff was banned  since 1937! No pharma company will do trials with and for human patients on a banned substance!

Second, greedy, ruthless (((Big Pharma))) wants to make money off drugs; these nasty drugs always have side effects; then they sell you another pill for the side effects!

I can say this from personal experience — that a CBD substance, “Pain Freeze,” did help me with pain from a severe shoulder injury resulting from a hard slip-and-fall on the ice back in March. I landed on my right elbow and all the force went right up into my shoulder. As a result, I was only able to resume weight-lifting recently.

Anyway, here is the article from the University of Michigan, an outstanding school: https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/health-management/should-you-take-cbd-for-pain):

 

Should You Take CBD for Pain?

 

October 30, 2019 12:41 PM

People looking for a safer pain reliever are turning to cannabis-derived CBD. Michigan Medicine experts weigh in on what’s currently known about the trendy supplement.

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CBD, short for cannabidiol, is undergoing a surge in popularity as the hot new supplement, with a promise to treat a variety of conditions including pain, anxiety, and insomnia, just to name a few. It’s also available in all manner of forms, from lotions and oils to CBD-infused food and drink. But does it work?

CBD is one of the compounds in the cannabis plant, better known as marijuana. Unlike the famous cannabinoid tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), CBD doesn’t cause the psychological effects typical of being “high”. Both CBD and THC act on the body’s natural endocannabinoid system, which plays a role in many processes including appetite, pain and memory.

The scientific evidence around CBD use is thin, a fact that is mainly due to politics. “Cannabis has been a Schedule 1 drug for a long time, which has limited the type of research needed to figure out how best to use it therapeutically,” says Kevin Boehnke, Ph.D., research investigator in the department of anesthesiology and the Michigan Medicine Chronic Pain and Fatigue Research Center. Under the U.S. Federal Controlled Substances Act, Schedule 1 drugs are defined as having no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

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Yet marijuana has been used as a medicinal plant for thousands of years, he notes. In fact, one of the first recorded uses of cannabis was for rheumatism, also known as arthritis. Cannabis products were widely used as medicines in the 19th and early 20th centuries, and were listed in the U.S. Pharmacopoeia before the onset of Federal restriction in 1937 under the Marijuana Tax Act.

Much of the research literature around CBD in particular supports its use as a treatment for childhood epilepsy. Indeed, in 2018 the FDA approved the CBD-based drug Epidiolex as a drug for childhood epileptic conditions. In a substantial policy shift, Epidiolex was designated as Schedule V, which is the least restrictive drug schedule and indicates little potential for abuse.

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While there aren’t any published clinical trials on CBD in pain, Boehnke notes that ongoing preclinical studies in animals have demonstrated that CBD reduces pain and inflammation, and studies of CBD in humans show that it is well-tolerated and has few negative side effects. “There are also observational studies that ask why people use CBD and if it’s effective, and results tend to be quite positive. People report using CBD for anxiety, pain, sleep — all things that go hand-in-hand with chronic pain,” he says. The passage of the 2018 Farm Bill removed hemp-derived CBD (<0.3% THC) from the Controlled Substances Act, and many people are since testing it out. Boehnke says, “Even though there isn’t clinical trial literature for most common uses of CBD, people don’t necessarily follow what clinical trials say.”

So many people are turning to CBD as an alternative pain reliever, especially in light of the opioid crisis, that in a commentary published in Annals of Internal Medicine, Boehnke and Daniel Clauw, M.D., director of the Chronic Pain and Fatigue Research Center, provided advice for clinicians on how to counsel their patients about CBD and cannabis use.

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They also provided guidance for the Arthritis Foundation, who recently surveyed 2,600 people with arthritis and found that 29% currently use CBD to treat arthritis symptoms.

Boehnke and Clauw recommend that people with chronic pain talk to their doctor about adding CBD to their treatment plan, and continue to use their prescribed medication. They offer the following advice for people wanting to try CBD:

  • Don’t smoke or vape. Bottom line is smoking anything harms the lungs. Vaping has been associated with a recent epidemic of lung disease, according to the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.
  • Purchase from reputable sources. Like vitamins and other supplements, CBD products aren’t regulated or FDA approved to treat disease, so buyer beware. Look for products that have been tested by an independent third party lab “so you don’t end up with a product that has THC in it or a product contaminated with heavy metals or pesticides,” says Boehnke.
  • Route of administration matters. CBD is best taken in pill or capsule form for slow extended release or as an oral tincture (infused oil that contains CBD) for faster effect onset.
  • Start low, go slow. Take a small amount and slowly increase your dosage until you start to get symptom relief over a matter of weeks. Track your symptoms to get a sense of whether or not CBD is a helpful part of your treatment plan.
  • Check your state laws. While medical marijuana is legal in many states, it’s still illegal at the Federal level, putting CBD in a legal gray zone in many areas.

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5 Comments

  1. Ich nutze nur das Cannabis wo CBD und! THC drin ist. Es hilft gut gegen Rückenschmerzen…

    Probieren geht über Studieren…

  2. I’ve been using it to calm my anxiety and stress with good success. More so it helped clear the mental fog I’ve been having since getting out of the military, where being “redpilled” also doesn’t help, as society at large just kept dragging me down with disappointment.

    I’ve recommended it to all three of my sisters, one who has MS, another with nerve pain from a car accident, and the other with lupus, who she initially said it didn’t help, but began again taking it at higher doses daily and told me she likes it.

    Also, it helped revitalize my father who has diabetes, in getting his energy back. Only downside is a bit of dry mouth.

    http://www.LazarusNaturals.com is what I found after a thorough autistic search when researching a year ago and “full spectrum CBD” is where it’s at, which yes might make you pop hot on a piss test because they made the tests so damn accurate over the decades in the phony “War on Drugs”.

    They also have a Veterans Discount, which gives you 60% off and they just cut their normal prices down 50% from what they were a month ago and they already had the best deals. Both discounts stack so you can get an ungodly amount for insanely cheap.

    The only downside is CBD is a little overrated for general pain relief. It can help a bunch of issues but unless the pain is related to nerves, it’s not as effective. If you have a muscle spasm or something of that nature it may help loosen you up enough to be functional without the mind-numbing pain, but as general pain relief for cuts and things of that nature, it’s not going to do you much good other than help with your mind so that you don’t focus so much on the injury — which ironically does actually help relieve pain.

    Good luck!

  3. Hi John and a special ‘Hello Bella” to Margi. I want to share my thoughts for dear Margi and our HOPE for her full recovery. I have spent 40+ years trying to live a healthy life (as a vegetarian) self taught through desire and books that make sense. I was on the extreme end of physical labor and physical exercise in most of those years, so I am a witness to various pain that came along with that. Now that I have learned to gracefully balance it all, and to apply a formal education learned from various modalities of massage therapy…maybe this advice would come to some relief if not total. I don’t assume how much you know about wheat/barley grass juicing, but I have lately acquired a hand grinder/kit to grow my own as the supplements have become too expensive for me. All I can say (with a clean diet) I have seen and felt a difference just in just two days of juicing. Not only does Margi need to detox from horrible chemicals but also radiation poisoning. The living food diet can restore molecular/cellular healing from detoxing and restoring valuable nutrients back into the whole body. Without going into a long comment I will send some links for you to investigate (if interested).
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    Welcome to the Source of the Living Foods Lifestyle®
    (***They have online courses***) If $ are an issue which it is for me, here is information that includes a booklet, kits, seeds and everything you need to get started. Keep in mind that once the body detoxes and starts a new healing process, we don’t need *meds* or painkillers to keep us, just the wisdom to maintain a lifestyle of eating and living.
    http://www.handypantry.com
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    Alfalfa (in supplement or micro greens) is perhaps the king of herbs to rid the body of acids and poisons. It neutralizes them.
    Spreading the LOVE with you 🙂 God Bless and Keep you. I hope this helps.

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